Safefill - Refillable Gas Cylinders

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #32

    "Yes not the cheapest Tinny…"

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  • WK57ABF
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    edited June 2019 #33

    We've used refillable lpg cylinders for well over 20 years and it is getting increasingly difficult to fill them - we've used Worthington bottles fitted with overfill devices - German bottles with 80% devices - and currently Alugas on our camper.

    I would suggest or possibly advise owners of Safefill or similar refillable cylinders to build up their own list of "portable cylinder friendly fillers" - these will usually be little independent village garages where the owner fills your bottle - they've kept us going for a long while.

    John

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #35

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  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #36

    And at what cost to get it set up?see previos threads for a tiny minority of users who have invested big bucks for the set up, that may not be as a good idea if the filling places are shrinkingsurprised

  • DaveandVicki
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    edited June 2019 #37

    We are fortunate that we have 2 places to fill our bottles near to where our caravan is stored. Add to that another place a couple of miles from home and also the place we purchased our 1st Safefill bottle from that I pass on the way to work.

    We have only been without the umbilical cord once, that was when the sites electric had to be shut down for maintenance work by the sites electric supplier. We managed without a problem except Vicki missed her TV  (important stuff like Emerdale and Corrie. laughing )

    I'm looking forward to more days without the cord.

  • Johnny57
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    edited June 2019 #38

    What about creating a Google map of places that members know will fill refillable cylinders like Safefilll etc? 

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #39

    Most of those using C&CC or CC sites generally don't need it as on EHU

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  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #41

    Is it something in the air where you are that is affecting you surprised

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #42

    So all the 'off gridders' book a night on a CC site to fill their gas. That will really swell the club coffers!

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2019 #43

    No, ET, they'll probably demand it at the entrance, along with the wherewithal to fill up water tanks,  dump waste etc, before going on their merry way! wink

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2019 #44

    " We managed without a problem except Vicki missed her TV "

    our TVs are both 12v (as are many that "run off mains'....via an transformer/adaptor) and when we on mains, the charger charges the 12v batteries and the tv still runs from the 12v supply...so no need to miss any tv....even the soapswink

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #45

    Also they can then use all the facilties that some have wanted ,surprised

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  • WK57ABF
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    edited June 2019 #47

    Sorry 57 - we've built up our own list over the years and with all the skulduggery and threats to garage owners that have gone on we won't divulge that list to anyone.

    John

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2019 #48

    absolutely, if I was coming on to site to buy something, I wouldn't be paying an entry fee...undecided

    and there I was thinking we were all in the same club .....certainly no them and us in M's (no doubt, tongue in cheek) postwink

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #49

    But all those who come on site are buying something?some of it is in the pitch feeswink

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2019 #50

    I'll make it (more) easy for you....if I wanted a Calor refill I wouldn't need to pay a pitch fee....id just drive in and exchange it....and pay for the service I used.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #51

    That’s not very friendly😕

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2019 #52

    And the site staff would be ever grateful, for your contribution to their additional income,which is not the same as what would be involved with and additions that would be needed to the site bulk tankswink

  • WK57ABF
    WK57ABF Forum Participant Posts: 51
    edited June 2019 #53

    That garage owner is doing me a favour by filling my lpg bottle against the wishes of the company supplying his gas - even though it is perfectly legal - and you want me to divulge his name - i don't think you understand the dog eat dog lpg industry.

    John

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #54

    Have you considered that sometimes it’s wiser to say nothing at all rather than drop broad hints and tell half a story?

    So it seems your list consists of one name. 😀

  • WK57ABF
    WK57ABF Forum Participant Posts: 51
    edited June 2019 #55

    Oh dear - please substitute those for that - what a bloody nit picker!

    John

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2019 #56

    Just read your own posts again and then you’ll see why I questioned your statements. Frankly, it smacks of fantasy.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited June 2019 #57

    With the increasing number of MH's, I would imagine that refillable systems are on the increase and the Calor exchange bottle setup will, as time progresses become a "caravan thing".

  • mickysf
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    edited June 2019 #58

    It just saddens me having gone down the refill route that the garages selling gas are quite rapidly reducing in my experience and that the associated App appears unable to keep up with this steady demise.

    I now take advantage of any garages advertising gas whilst l'm on the road once my tank reads less than half full. Thing is I find the level indicator in the cab less than accurate as cost to refill at 'half full' have varied between £4 and £12. Some garages I'm told have minimum charges, I've yet to experience this but I could be caught out if I continue in this way.

  • Johnny57
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    edited June 2019 #59

    Shame WK57ABF as you have taken years to gain this knowledge it would have been great to share with others who may be using/considering using refillable bottles. 
    If its difficult to find places that allow them to be filled then sales of the bottles may decrease and maybe the filling points also if they get little/no custom!

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2019 #60

    Given that CC only provide services to those staying on site any supply to happy campers would need to be from existing storage tanks. There would doubtless be many cost and other implications in providing such a service. Maybe like the apparently high number of garages refusing refills of stand alone bottles the CC would reach a similar conclusion. With fixed systems I would have thought that there might be ample opportunity to top up when refilling fuel

  • Milothedog
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    edited June 2019 #61

    Maybe the reasons for lack of local supply and refusal to fill stand alone cylinders is due to other reasons.

    Back in 2000 my company ran 17 Daf SB 220 single deck buses which were LPG powered. the sites where they were maintained and parked had to be fitted with gas detector alarm systems in the drainage systems and workshops. (LPG is heavier than air and collects at the lowest point and also expands something like 250 times + in the atmosphere) If I recall correctly the large storage tanks also had to have bunding around them and the refueling stations had gas detector alarms.  

    Maybe the legal requirements placed on a business to store and sell LPG make it not worth their while.