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TLR2
TLR2 Forum Participant Posts: 1
edited May 2019 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

I have my van on a seasonal pitch in a caravan park - not CC I hasten to add.  After paying a considerable four figure Site Fee, I am being asked to pay Rates (acknowledged by the site owner as 'a kind of Council Tax') for the supply of a water tap and sewerage disposal facilities.  The Council where my van is situated states "Holiday Caravans that are not used as main residence are not subject to Council Tax.  Having pointed this out to the Site Owner, I am still being asked to pay this fee.

Surely provision of a tap and sewerage disposal is part of the original site fee.  Anyone else had this problem?  Help!!!

TLR2 

Scotland

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  • JillwithaJay
    JillwithaJay Club Member Posts: 2,485 ✭✭
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    edited May 2019 #2

    Like you, I would have thought that the seasonal pitch fee should be inclusive of the water supply and sewerage disposal.

    Are there others on site in a similar situation that you could 'compare notes' and work together on this? 

     

  • dave the rave
    dave the rave Forum Participant Posts: 806
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    edited May 2019 #3

    In Scotland,as you are probably aware,water and sewerage form a part of the council tax bill so I would have a word with citizens advice or similar.good luck.

  • brue
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    edited May 2019 #4

    I don't know what the legal system is regarding sites in Scotland but like Jill I would assume the yearly fees would cover outgoings and maintenance etc. I presume there are all year round sites and some which are more seasonal, are you allowed to live in your van or is it just a holiday site? Check your contract with a fine tooth comb?

  • Wellys and Mac
    Wellys and Mac Forum Participant Posts: 447
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    edited May 2019 #5

    I have a seasonal pitch in England, serviced so water and waste connected, I dont pay council tax.

     

    But in the back of my mind so do a little research, or phone the Clubs helpline, my site is open 10 months a year, I'm thinking that if the site is open 12 months then you/I could be eligible to pay council tax. But I would have thought the bill would be sent to you, not the site owner!

  • Wildwood
    Wildwood Club Member Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭✭
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    edited May 2019 #6

    It sounds a con to me, but you need to read the contract you should have been given before you paid. If this shows the charge then you are stuck with it and if you go to another site you will check for this there. If it is not in the contract then there seems to be no legal basis for the charge, but you might still face the prospect of being throw off and having to chase the money you have paid or have the water cut off. You may have to assess the situation and see what is the best option.

    If the caravan is not residential, the owner will have paid business rates on the site and he seems to be trying to claw your proportion back, but it is very underhand and I would certainly not be going back there next year.  If you were liable for council tax as the occupier, then they would bill you direct.

  • Solobay
    Solobay Forum Participant Posts: 156
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    edited May 2019 #7

    Seem to remember someone on A CAMC seasonal site in Scotland telling me he had to leave caravan all packed( inc steadies) up every 6 weeks for a week otherwise it was considered a residence and had to have council tax paid on it - stand to be corrected though

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2019 #8

    Not quite. I don’t think you normally even have to take an awning down and there’s no requirement to have it road ready.

     

    How long can I stay on site?
    You can stay for up to 21 days per stay as per our usual Club site rules. Make sure there's a minimum of 48 hours before you come back for your next stay, as our pitches are for recreational purposes only.

  • Nuggy
    Nuggy Forum Participant Posts: 512
    edited May 2019 #9

    As mentioned above re a contract, were you given the opportunity to read the site rules and conditions before you paid?