Motorhomes dominate
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van conversions, coachbuilt, A Class
But that is just external, inside the same, just shifting around the various components, bed, lounge, toilets... just the same as caravans. Why would that make them more popular?
parallel seating, (yes never happens in a caravan) large garage with dinette, retractable beds etc
I assume you have not been in a caravan saying these things but all these are done in a caravan
but you said:
Perhaps the greater number of models of motorhome from the continent and the wide variation in styles accounts for the increased popularity.
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A massive range of sizes, weights and layouts to suit everybody.
Which could be exactly said of a caravan. Methinks some bias here? And that is fine, I'm biased towards caravans because they suit me better, but I don't expect that I have to try and make you think that?
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vert true or that cold bit by the cab (we don't have to insulate our front window)
You see each person has their preference, and could list advantages and disadvantages. That is great we are all different, just don't think or try and prove that one is better than another. It is what you prefer.
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No, absolutely not the same internals and there are various reasons for that. I was a caravanner for 30 years and have looked at just about every model on the market. You clearly haven’t looked at many motorhomes or you would see what I mean.
Yes, it’s down to personal preference and cost of course but I am just trying to suggest a reason that motorhomes may appeal to an increasing number of people.
If I had a young family today then it would be a caravan every time but a motorhome has enormous appeal to couples both young and old and the wide variety of designs encourages a broader market which will probably continue to expand.
Fortunately we can all enjoy the great outdoors whether it be in tent, caravan or motorhome.
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not the same how? methinks you really are biased and we should do things your way or not at all.
Suggesting parallel seating in a caravan being a difference as you did shows a complete lack of being in one?
Apart from a drivers chair, no real difference in accommodation at all. You could take a picture in either and providing the driver's chair and seat belts aren't visible you would be hard pressed to tell which is which.
motor home or caravan?
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no I think there is a bit of bias going on
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Apart from a drivers chair, no real difference in accommodation at all. You could take a picture in either and providing the driver's chair and seat belts aren't visible you would be hard pressed to tell which is which.
David Klyne posted a short time ago about his new motorhome not being like a caravan layout. To me it looked very much like a traditional caravan layout
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I like to have the best of both type of oufits which is why I sometimes tow a small car and sometimes I don't. I don't need a mindset change.
Sometimes I stays on sites much longer than just a couple of days and sometimes I move on daily or every two or three days.
I have a very fexible outfit and outlook. The cab space is not wasted, both seats swivel to form part of the lounge area. My current motorhome is 2 ft longer than my last caravan but I have plenty of space, storage and payload. I only need services every 3 days and that is to empty the loo. Water easily lasts 5 days and my solar panel and engine power keep both engine and leaisure batteries charged indefinitely with little if any restirictions on what appliances we use. I can therefore use any type of site and do sometimes paying as much as £60 per night or as little as nothing. What is not to like and as an ex caravan owner I can appreciate why motorhomes are growing in popularity. As Hitch says pitching up and moving on is a doddle.
Here is the site I was last on and referred to earlier, 100 percent motorhomes until the last night when a caravan arrived.
peedee
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Its nice to see mhs on club sites ,,The trend for wild camping with mhs is ridiculous 60 grand to tight to pay site fees ,,dumping human waste down storm drains ,,Not just in this country ,but Europe is having same problem
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Yes i know we are part of europe ,just read what i typed !!
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not an anti-MH post by any chance?...
whilst we had several 'stints' on lovely campsites we also spent many nights not on sites whilst on tour for 80 odd days, some on aires, some on streets close to beaches, some in supermarket car parks...
...but we didn't feel we were too tight to pay sites fees....nor are we 'ridiculous', we just wanted to camp somewhere else....and nor did we ever dump out toilet waste anywhere other than in the proper place...
weve camped all over Europe and never once seen what you describe, and where did you see it first hand?....and what did the perpetrator say when you spoke to them?
...or have you read all about it on the net?
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Both caravans and motorhomes have their advantages and disadvantages. I prefer a caravan when staying for longer at one location and using that as a base from which to do extended tours, something which is difficult to do with a motorhome unless you're towing a car behind, but then you've virtually got a caravan combination in reverse. On the other hand, when planning trips where I will be moving on regularly and not staying longer than 2 to 3 nights anywhere I'll rent a motorhome and leave my caravan at home because then the motorhome has its justification. However, costwise the caravan will always win hands down.
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weve camped all over Europe and never once seen what you describe
so of course because you haven't seen it it does not happen, is that what you are saying BB?
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I’ve no doubt this happens to a degree, DC, but don’t tar all MH-ers with the same brush. You were perhaps a little unwise to post your message on here - a club forum - where it could be taken as an insult to members and is very unlikely to reach the eyes of the perpetrators.
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Did I say that?
David
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I guess that the ratio of vans to M/Hs it a matter of where one stops. So far on this trip in Scotland all bar one site has been predominantly caravans. The exception was Beecraigs at Linlithgow where virtually all the M/Hs stopped for only a single night and the caravans were stopping longer. I would doubt that the situation will be any different on the other sites we'll be using.
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no, funnily enough, this is what I'm saying...
"weve camped all over Europe and never once seen what you describe"
why are you trying to apply your microscope to a simple 12 word English sentence and make it something it isn't?
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so it does happen? is that a yes?
No need to be so rude and aggressive BB, just stay polite? I am just making sure I understand you, remember you did say once:
why not try and understand what posters 'mean' rather than what they actually write
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I have actually seen toilet emptied in car parks, or should I say the results of toilets that have been emptied. Motorhomes were in that CP using it the night before. Of course I couldn't swear that they were the perpetrators but I don't think it was a coincidence. However I would say that in the near 30 years of travelling abroad I haven't seen it often and don't see why it should be considered the norm. Just as a balance I have seen foot baths on campsites used by caravans for the the same purpose. With so many people using LVs you are bound to come across some people who don't care or are just stupid.
If you look back say 10 years then you definitely see more Motorhomes now than then. The trend is similar abroad and we've even (shock horror) seen a few French venturing outside of France in them.
I personally can't see us using a M/H in the foreseeable future as we like to explore where we are and find a short stay and move anathema to us. Maybe we'll change, maybe health will force it upon us and I will then embrace it. Until then I'll be a happy tugger. Just enjoy whatever you are using.
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I personally can't see us using a M/H in the foreseeable future as we like to explore where we are and find a short stay and move anathema to us. Maybe we'll change, maybe health will force it upon us and I will then embrace it. Until then I'll be a happy tugger. Just enjoy whatever you are using.
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We tour the same way and we generally like to get in to small car parks either in cities or as close as possible to the paths up to the summits, these are often quite congested as are the approach roads.
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I think you may have misunderstood the point I was making? What I said was that when people change from a caravan to a motorhome there is a tendency to try and replicate what they had in the last caravan such as a fixed bed which usually means buying a larger motorhome. It is only when you have some experience of ownership that you start to appreciate that a smaller motorhome might be more convenient. I wasn't trying to compare accommodation as lets face it there are only so many permutations of sleeping arrangements in both caravans and motorhomes. Having said that there are options in some motorhomes which are not, to my knowledge, available in caravans like drop down beds or high level beds that you often get in European motorhomes that allows more flexible storage.
David
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