Awnings on hardstanding
Hi all, I am not new to caravanning but am new to pitching a awning on a hardstanding. I have a chance to holiday on a site with only hardstandings and hardly any grass. So the awning would be on the hard surface as well. My question is what do I need in the way of pegs etc which is different from what is used on a grass pitch. Thanks David
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DT, I use an impact driver & coach screws. They do less damage to the surface, are more secure & take less trouble to put in.
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Been using THESE for a couple years now, Can be screwed in with the cordless or bashed in with the widely available special tool #Hickory 2LB if the ground is too compacted.
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MTD, the coach screws cost £4.98 for 20, they’re stronger & last longer👍🏻😊, yup, that’s my Yorkshireness kicking in😂😂
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But I'm an affluent southerner
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My mistake🤣🤣
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'Rock' pegs are good as are rebar pegs - we have a few different types to suit the ground.
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Rock pegs, the ones with the spiral on the shaft, (not really a thread), 3lb lump hammer, and titanium thumbs!!
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Like most hobbies David, there’s a tendency to start out with the cheap and cheerful solution, then progressively buy better and better. Most awnings come with a bag of toy town pegs, which are best left at home. Bigger, thicker pegs come next, including some made of plastic. Skip the plastic ones, try the thicker steel ones, watch them bend, then go out and buy some rock pegs. These do work, with the occasional bend. Anyone who tells you how easy they are to remove, is either a weight lifter or a lot less experienced with tricky bases than we are. Ultimately, when you are tired of finding pegging in and out to be time consuming and hard work, you’ll look at an upgrade. This is the point where you make your most expensive purchase yet, and buy full size, steel, screw in pegs and a decent battery drill. OR save the interim money and learning curve by buying the above screw pegs from the start.
To clarify - many bases, but not all, will take rock pegs easily. In my view, the effort required to bend a rock peg is too much. And we’ve had plenty of bends over the years. All bases will succumb to steel screw pegs. For the hardest of all basis, you will benefit from hitting screw pegs part way in, to help the screw take when you drill. In every case, removal with a drill is much quicker and easier than pulling/ levering/ using fulcrums etc.
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I have some of these too. Went to Conkers C&CC site over the May Day BH. The hardstandings here are super-hard and the screw pegs were as useless as a chocolate fireguard. We had to resort to ordinary steel pegs and the trusty lump hammer!
David
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That's why I said you can bash them in as well, best of both worlds then as you can just unscrew them with the cordless when packing up.
My approach is if they don't go in on the first or second attempt then out comes special tool #Hickory 2LB.
They have not failed me yet and are a lot cheaper than buying those sets of 12 or so that come in a little case.
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if you find it hard to knock the pegs in do what I do get the wife to do it
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Oh I did try knocking screw peg in at Conkers - with a lump hammer. The peg wouldn't go in, and I lost the bottom section of the threads. I didn't want to ruin the other pegs, so as I was going to end up hitting them in I used the ordinary steel ones. This is Conkers we are talking about - the hardest hardstandings I have ever experienced. One step away from concrete - and not really sure of which side of concrete!!!
David
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Anyone who tells you how easy they are to remove, is either a weight lifter or a lot less experienced with tricky bases than we are.
I am not a weight lifter nor unexperienced with extracting pegs from hardstanding. I always found it simple with a good steel shafted claw hammer amd no effort. Hook the ears under the head and stand on the striking head. No effort as body weight and leverage moves the peg easily no matter how tight.
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I think some people are a bit more practical than others.
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When you’ve graduated to this;
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/www.diy.com/departments/magnusson-steel-wrecking-bar-l-14-/1782727_BQ.prd pivoted on a wooden fulcrum and stood on, and they are still hard to remove, we can explore the meaning of difficult.
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That's a silly statement. what did you use to put them in with, a sledge hammer ?.
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A bit confusing really ET,
JC's own quote from a post in this thread.
"To clarify - many bases, but not all, will take rock pegs easily. In my view, the effort required to bend a rock peg is too much. And we’ve had plenty of bends over the years. All bases will succumb to steel screw pegs. For the hardest of all basis, you will benefit from hitting screw pegs part way in, to help the screw take when you drill. In every case, removal with a drill is much quicker and easier than pulling/ levering/ using fulcrums etc."
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