Is it a rip off?

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  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited April 2019 #122

    Of course, touring in the place we are not allowed to mention is a doddle in comparison. 

    Of course you can mention touring in Europe as long as you are aware that costs there are irrelevant when considering UK site fees.

    Over night stops at over £25? No, don't want to pay that much.

    And of course you don't have to Brue. Other alternatives are available.

     

     

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #123

    This wasn't a personal view it was a business view. The club has to compete for take up of pitches, going elsewhere is a sign that the system probably needs tweaking to attract more customers. Without the revenue the club can't improve on it's customer provision.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #124

    Best to avoid CC sites if they do not provide what you want and they are not cheap David

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #125

    You're saying it again EasyT, telling people to go elsewhere is not an attractive proposition!

    Most off putting to read as well. smile

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  • Goldie146
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    edited April 2019 #127

    As working farmers we get very little time away, so tend to book sites we know (don’t want to waste our holiday being dissatisfied). 

    We are currently on the CCC site at Bala and it’s a similar price to CAMC sites this week, I think. About £125 for 4 nights. But we don’t begrudge as we chose the site to be near a friend.

    We’ve had a few niggles getting the caravan ready and maybe it’s time to change it. But for the time we use it it wouldn’t be value for money.

    But we recently bought an expensive nearly new car, which we think is value for money. We use it more than the caravan and we love it!

    PS the free Wi-fi here is rubbish!

  • JayOutdoors
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    edited April 2019 #128

    Is it a rip off ?   IMHO a rip off is when something does not turn out to be as described/advertised etc when I chose to pay for it.

    I tend to think as members we each choose from what the club has to offer that suits us personally/individually and that all members must have at least 1 reason for joining or continuing their membership otherwise there would be little point in paying the yearly fee. 

    Particularly like being able to book 1 night only - not always allowed by some other providers.  As in all aspects of life – personal choice is there for all.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #129

    That may be so Brue but, for some, the true facts of the matter are not always palatable. You seem already to arrived at a similar conclusion for you and OH however with regard to considering alternatives to match your requirements

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #130

    The first line was not out of context WTG. You said that you were not permitted to mention 'over there' and I was merely saying that you were but that pitch price comparisons held no relevance ........ I did not say that you were making such comparisons. 

    The second sentence did erroneously refer to a Brue instead of yourself. Put it down to my daftness and poor memory

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #131

    But the CC Club does not tell members to go elsewhere Brue. Members choose a site that is not a CC site for many reasons. Cost is but one of them. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #132

    but it is not a recognized business view is it? 

    Going elsewhere and attract more customers? well have a look at late availability for the BH weekend, especially the Saturday night.

    I suppose people are having to go elsewhere as a lot of sites have 0 pitches.

    Without revenue... yes at last a valid business model. So selling off pitches at the cheapest price so that poor retired folk as you say can pay will do that? 

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #133

    I suppose that you are quite correct Jay. A rip off is normally when you are  islead into making a purchase whereas club site users soon learn what to expect regarding standards and provisions

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #134

    +1

    why would they return if otherwise?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #135

    what even those on fixed incomes?smile

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #136

    Wonder if Husky does 'set asides'? You know, have a few Bonios from a box and pay for them and Husky puts box on one side so that you can call in and buy a few more when you run out.

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,464
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    edited April 2019 #137

    Yes ,I do laughing,and not just Bonio's cool

     

    P.S , we don't reserve Bonio's ,its first come ,first servedwink

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #138

    No they dont but I was referring to comments on here. smile

    CAMC also suggest and provide alternatives in the shape of CLs and rallies and discounted prices which is good, but could they offer a bit more I wonder?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2019 #139

    I suppose the acid test is whether enough members use any particular site. The Club, no doubt, will have an occupancy level in mind site and adjust accordingly. If the likes of Seacroft and Bridlington were on average less than 50% occupied then they would have to address that situation probably by reducing the price or perhaps the introduction of MWD. We have seen on some sites where they have seasonal pitches that those pitches have been reduced because of a greater take up of touring pitches. So the situation is probably fairly fluid if circumstances change. However the reality of the situation is that sites, especially those with higher site fees, seem to enjoy pretty high occupancy. The fact that many members are willing to add an addition £3.90 onto a standard pitch fee to secure a serviced pitch rather proves the point that money isn't everything. It seems that the Club have more than sufficient members willing to pay the current fees.

    David

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #140

    OK Brue so when somebody says that CC sites are too expensive what would you suggest other than look for alternatives. It seems pointless if they complain about the sites being to expensive and not value for money to suggest that they should carry on using them.

    What else do you think that the club could/should offer?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #141

    Indeed, I looked Bridlington as it was mentioned and while there are spaces on standard pitches, (but fully booked on BH - pesky rich working folk no doubt) the more expensive SP are well taken up, and fully booked more than a quarter of the time in peak and 'less than five pitches' shown many times.

    (a couple in peak will pay £39.40 and there are 18 SP pitches out of 149)

    The increase in peak to next year is 70p for adult and 30p for the pitch, excessive?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #142

    cheaper prices?

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #143

    Dear Husky - I don't want the full fat bonios, box and all, I have my own container so don't need a box. . I just want to be able to pop in, stock up on bonios (obviously discounted since I'm not getting a box) and head straight off again. Any chance?wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #144

    Really, where? perhaps quote one to back that up?

    As you well know there is a world of difference between being told to go elsewhere and  go look for cheaper alternatives/don't like the price don't buy it.

    Why you think that people have a right to stay on club sites at 'their price' is fascinating!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2019 #145

    brilliant!

    However if HD shop won't let you do that, rather than expect him to change and complain (on and on and on) there is shop that will let you do that, so perhaps errr, go there? 

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #146

    Getting back to the OP, the complaint (or comment) was I believe about a cost of roughly£26 per night over Easter which I don't think is outrageous. But what's the point in complaining on here and then using the site anyway (did we ever find out which site?). It's only a rip off if you turn up and get charged for extras you were unaware of. From our experience, I'd say club prices are around the median in any area of the country, regardless of what competition there is. But "savvy" site users will pay if the site is where they want to be and appears to be value for money. And they do it on club sites in their tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands every year.

    We're shortly off on a tour taking in 6 sites, 2 club, 2 the other club and 2 CLs. The club sites will be the most expensive because the other club gives us a discount and the CLs are not trying to compete. But the club sites are where we want to spend time, so for us it's a straight forward choice! smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #147

    Is it right to expect special treatment from Husky when for a few bob more you could enjoy the whole experience of the box and stay to browse the shelves? 😋

    As for going elsewhere, isn’t that a fact of life? If we don't like the prices and products in Waitrose pet section, we go somewhere else that better suits our needs.

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #148

    Ah, but for all we know, Husky has a website of his own - and if I can't get exactly what I want .....! surprised

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2019 #149

    No, as the box is part of the price, then I will end up with lots of box's I cant sellwink

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #150

    Indeed Moulesly I think that I said on page one that it was a reasonable price.

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2019 #151

    Have you got a website? innocent