Changes To MOT Test

Tinwheeler
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edited March 2019 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

I stumbled across this site detailing the changes to the MOT regs which came into force last May. It might be of interest.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/mot-changes-from-may-2018-guidance-for-mot-testers/mot-inspection-manual-changes

 

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  • nelliethehooker
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    edited March 2019 #2

     Wouldn't a novel like War and Peace have been more interesting?wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #3

    Well, I did wonder…😋

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2019 #4

     Nothing on the tele then TW?smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #5

    😋

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #6

    like most tests all people are interested is in pass or fail?

    but some of the not now failures are surprising (well surprising to me)

    brake fluid level below the minimum mark
    brake fluid warning lamp illuminated or inoperative
    power steering fluid below the minimum mark

    Aren't these things unsafe?

    Mind you one for mainly caravaners: trailer electrical socket insecure 

    Possible thread title What did the MOT ever do for caravaners?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2019 #7

    Depends how far below the min level is before it becomes dangerous or if the levels are going down.  It's not that many years ago that cars didn't have a low level warning lamp. ☺

    I like to be aware of the advisories too .... not just the pass or fail.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #8

    thanks MM

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #9

    don't forget if you are ever bored on site (torrential rain or out of beer/wine) then you can check the MOT history of the cars around you by simply typing in their reg plate. Even gives all the advisories.

    https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

    Actually also useful in finding out what happened to any cars you traded in. One previous car taken away for 'scrap' is still going strong!

  • huskydog
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    edited March 2019 #10

    I used to carry out MOT's , glad i'm out of it  

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #11

    dogs have MOTs?

  • harryb
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    edited March 2019 #12

    I thought that was MUTS

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #13

    laughing

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2019 #14

    I am deeply loving the failure for excessively tinted glass. Certain sections of the community are going to have fun removing that! 😂😂

  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2019 #15

    Problems are rated so that some mean the car has to be repaired before it can return to the road and some are advisory. Things like the brake fluid level can be quickly fixed on the spot and assuming the brakes are working It would be difficult to say it was dangerous, rather than unwise. If you did not fix it though and there was a subsequent accident as a result your insurer may not be so generous.

    What those towing need to be aware of is that the plug will now be tested and if faulty could result in a fail so check that before the test.

  • Milothedog
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    edited March 2019 #16

    Isn't it the case that only 13 pin plugs are testable items. 12 n & 12 s systems are not ? 

  • lornalou1
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    edited March 2019 #17

    The MOT is only as good as when tested. Many years ago a work mate took his car for mot and passed, on way home brakes failed, the mot station said passed when tested and thats all they can do. so I don't think insurance can do anything about it.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #18

    Also I just don't trust the testers? Last but one MOT my daughter's car (one of our old ones) had an advisory that one brake pipe slightly corroded. At the next service I asked them to check it out, they said it was OK. Next MOT no advisory? Is corrosion that subjective? 

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #19

    Is corrosion that subjective? 

    Yes as far as advisory on brake lines. Many brake lines show corrosion. 

    Our Yarris has had an advisory 3 years in a row for rubber bushes deteriorated on anti- roll bar. No excess movement. As the car is 19.5 years old I am not surprised that there is some deterioration of rubber.

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #20

    fair enough, I suppose have any advisory check out then?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2019 #21

    Things like the brake fluid level can be quickly fixed on the spot

    so can an inoperative light bulb yet this is a fail? 

    I often wonder when a light bulb causes a failure, do they really fit a new one then do a retest? or just assume they are going to do it?

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #22

    Should always be a consideration. 

  • Wildwood
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    edited March 2019 #23

    I do wonder why cars fail for failed bulbs. These should be checked before you go as can a few other simple things that could cause a fail.

  • Milothedog
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    edited March 2019 #24

    Many, many moons ago when I worked in a main dealers (Rootes, do you remember them cool) who I did my apprenticeship with, I was a Nominated tester.  

    What a lot of people forget about an MOT test is a Pass is only confirmation that the vehicle met the MINIMUM standard set to pass at the time of the test.

    If you were to attend any of the training courses to qualify you would be surprised  at how worn, corroded or damaged some items/areas of the vehicle can be and still pass.  Invariably, an advisory is just the tester covering himself.   

    AFAIK they set get randomly audited to check they are testing to the manual, and I believe nowadays  they have to re qualify after a period of time.