So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?
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so you want the club to cater for a particular style of touring? At the expense of other members? This is really impractical, that the club should cater for all styles of touring to make it all embracing?
It is all embracing, all units, big, small, caravan, MH, can use a club site with the same set of rules applying at all. That is being inclusive.
Night stops are possible now.
Of curse if these rules are no to your liking, or your touring style even, then don't join the club, it is often said no one is forced to by membership or stay at club sites.
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"don't caravanners from the south need somewhere to 'night halt' when heading to the north, and vice versa?"
Yes, we do - they're called CLs and we've very often returned to quite unexpected areas of the country having stopped off at one of them.
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as BB said LNA, or car parks or any spare space going (like play areas)
Members can all do without these to make way for that way of touring?
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Yes, I mean you could even use a club site? That's a thought!
I think BB means "don't caravanners from the south need somewhere cheap to night halt..."
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Remember BB's prediction no booking, two days max, guaranteed pitch
I am not sure it will happen?
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Actually, I've just booked a C&CC site for 1 night at the start of a 3 week tour in May.
So, for a 1 night stop you can already use CAMC, C&CC, CLs, CSs, probably most commercial sites, Britstops, pub car parks, some LA car parks ... the list goes on and on. So where is the need for any extra provision, especially since it seems to be accompanied by not inconsiderable expenditure for a very questionable return?
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It works the same way from this direction, too.
Police will divert traffic off at the nearest exit - even by having you drive the wrong way on the carriageway if necessary.
In 40+ years of travelling north we’ve not yet needed a night halt. Actually, the longest delay we’ve experienced was at Speen Bridge by the Commando Monument when a MH careered down the hill and came to a rapid halt in the village.
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Oh silly me and how selfish of me!
When ever, and it's been only a few times, we have needed to make an impromptu halt we've always found an alternative club site. Thankfully we already have that much appreciated ability to amend our bookings and stay just one night on all the network's club sites. 👍
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we'll be booking a one nighter going down to Cromer later on this year. When we've done Norfolk in the past we've always stayed at Sandringham but (wait for it) I might even try a CL!
mmm actually the fish and chip van at Sandringham was good last time.
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yes do the same
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where is the need for any extra provision,
I think I explained in my previous post a circumstance where I would need such provision to reassure me about making a journey. Just to clarify, CLs and any other site may not be able to accomodate a new arrival after 8pm - which could actually be some time through the night depending on when the police release the traffic.
Which is worse - being in the snail pace stop-start for hours as the traffic you are in is diverted off the motorway onto a road network congested by the extra traffic and no hope of getting a rest; or being stationary between the last open junction and the accident where one can at least go to bed for hours!
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Yes, Nav , but my point was that there is already ample provision for the casual ad hoc linear tourist. Your emergency scenario is quite different and, with the best will in the world, I can't see any organisation providing specific facilities on the "just in case" basis. An accident can happen anywhere along a journey, so are you saying you're unwilling to start out on a journey unless you're sure you'd be able to get such a spot at any point on the journey? You might be many miles form the nearest club site. I don't understand why you're implying that, if a pitch were available somewhere in those circumstances, there'd be any problem about taking it up.
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David, I mentioned that very place a few days ago and explained how it is still there lying unused due to, I understand, long term visits from people in a different touring community.
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convenient and possibly free or extremely cheap you mean?
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the CCC?
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If I was doing the journey from Navs part of the world, l would want at least two stops. Perhaps Blackpool and then Tewkesbury. Neither very far from the route. If an incident did occur resulting the motorway closure, it would just be a case of making the best of it. Tewkesbury has a LNA area Blackpool doesn't. Perhaps a supermarket car park or motorway service area once you got back on the route. Fortunately these events don't occur that often.
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I understand the site which has closed and is to become offices is the adjacent static caravan site. I do not know if the one-time "Night Halt" area is included in the plans. The OS has a nice aerial view showing both sites, the stopped up entrance from services to the night halt, and the seperate road that accesses the statics site.
I dont think it was the Coltness Car Club that caused the closure, but other caravanners who expect free sites.
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At the expense of other members?
How does "Drop & Fill' for a notional fee impinge on other members? Indeed it could free up valuable pitches.
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I said expense, you say impinge, - no doubt a crafty use of words that bankers use to their advantage in various schemes in the your working past. There is a set finite space on club sites, either pitches are adapted or built on 'spare space'. So at some cost in money but also the loss of that space currently being used as car park, LNA, play area... whatever.
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Here is the way to get free drop and fill.
- Turn up at the barrier in your motor caravan and go into the office to see the warden.
- Say that you are staying nearby but think you would like to stay on that site in future.
- Ask to drive round to have a look. Can't walk round because of gammy leg.
- Once in, do one loop and stop at the "facility".
- Job done!
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Nav, there are other routes to SW you know. Some of them quite major. The canny regular SW visitor (😁) gets to know these A roads, or recalls them from when Okehampton bypass was naught but a draughtsmans dream. We have often encountered hold ups, but especially with all the technology nowadays, we often detour. Admittedly we are only doing half the journey you would, and crossing over country, but we seldom pick up M5 North of Tewkesbury. That’s why we know night halts, places to stop off safely, and dare I say cheaply if we choose. Nothing to do with MH either, we do it with van as well.
Corners. If you are contemplating a CL, I so hope your first try will be a huge success. You know Nellie and I will offer any suitable suggestions, as no doubt will others😁 It’s a lovely alternative world that can co exist alongside Club Sites. Photos of your stay will be required of course!😃
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For north/south travel past Carlisle in the west of England there is not much in the way of short alternative routes apart from the A6. I well remember watching the scenery go past on that road and wishing a Gardiner 180 would go faster. It does fill up rather quickly these days when the motorway is closed.
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Now steady on Corners. You gave me a real turn there but I assume you were merely jesting.
I wouldn't want your very first visit to a CL to be a disappointment and to be honest there are not that many options that would suffice to give you a flavour of CL..ing. Lets face it if you have bad experience then we're never going to hear the last of it, are we? So with some trepidation can I suggest The Old Orchard at Wisbech. It will have broken the back of your journey, you won't have to deviate too much, and it has some lovely owners who will be glad to see you. There's plenty of space and some hardstanding if you get the wobbles about seeing grass.From memory there was a decent pub not too far away but it's a few years since we've stayed in that particular area, preferring to be on the main coast area.
Remember safety is but 1 night away.
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