2016 Skoda Superb Estate - which tow bar?

1st Silverback
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edited March 2019 in Towcars & Towing #1

After much research I have finally decided upon and bought a 2016 Mk3 Skoda Superb Estate SE Business spec. Unfortunately I wasn't expecting to have to do pre flight checks before I set off but that's an age thing on my part having to learn all the new software / gadgets that it's equipped with Grrr

Anyway - to the problem.Having dodgy knees (I am now 63) I assumed that I could just have a fixed tow bar and 13 pin specific electrics fitted thus avoiding the bending / kneeling down to line up and engage a detachable ball. But - Says my local bar fitting agent - you have sensors (6 of them) and a fixed bar will cause the sensors to beep unless you switch them off every time you drive the car !  !  ! Noooooo say's I.

So the question is: Is this correct or does anyone out there have a Mk3 Superb estate that has a fixed tow bar that doesn't set off the sensors when not towing ?

 

 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #2

    Err, the sensors will only beep when you go into reverse gear. They won't sound when you’re going forward. I’d live with them beeping for the short duration of the reversing manoeuvres.

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2019 #3

    This problem can be overcome. Whilst not having a Superb our Jamjar does have the rear sensor thingy and I don't need to turn it off when not hitched up. The sensors do not pick up the fixed towbar. I only turn them off when hitched up and then only when reversing. Talk to another towbar fitter.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #4

    There may well be a switch on the dashboard of the Superb for turning the sensors off.

  • 1st Silverback
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    edited March 2019 #5

    There is a switch for turning the sensors off (as stated in my initial post) but if a fixed tow bar will set them off automatically the sensors are useless to me as I only want to hear them to avoid hitting an actual obstacle.Just turning them off every time is defeating the object of having them.

    Incidentally Tinwheeler They do bleep when I go forward as I have sensors in the front bumper too laughing

    All I want to do is have a tow ball permanently in place (bolted or detachable) and the sensors working in the normal way (front and rear) when NOT COUPLED to a Caravan or trailer.

  • 1st Silverback
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    edited March 2019 #6

    Many thanks for your reply 'wherenext' as your comment is almost a perfect reply for me - its a shame you refer to your jamjar and not a Superb as all I would then need to do is have fitted what you have. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2019 #7

    "Incidentally Tinwheeler They do bleep when I go forward as I have sensors in the front bumper too"

    But no front mounted towbar.

     

    I really don't think the info you’ve been given is correct.

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2019 #8

     Don't suppose you are anywhere near Chester are you?

  • 1st Silverback
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    edited March 2019 #9

    No wherenext - I am in Kent - why ?

  • lagerorwine
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    edited March 2019 #10

    Usually its the towbar flange that gives the problem. I would have thought a detachable would be fine, as the 'bulky' part is usually below the bumper. I had Witter detachable on my Mondeo Mk3 and there was no problem - and I left it attached to the car most of the time.

    I would contact P F Jones in Manchester, they will give you excellent advice and hopefully a suitable towbar for your needs.

  • 1st Silverback
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    edited March 2019 #11

    I am familiar with PF Jones but didn't think to ring them - thanks Lagerorwine.

    Would be nice to hear from anyone that also has a superb estate to see what bar and experiences they have.

    I suppose since the Mk3 has only been out for 3 years i am one of the guinea pigs so to speak  !

  • lagerorwine
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    edited March 2019 #12

    Ist Silverback - you dont need to ring them, take a look at their website and enter your car details. When I looked an hour ago, there were at least 10 possible options for your car (but most not flanged).

    You will have an idea what types are available. With a dedicated wiring kit, I would have thought the rear sensors would be 'accomodated' when the caravan was attached if the software is updated after fitting

     

  • Wherenext
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    edited March 2019 #13

    I was going to recommend the towbar company that fitted mine.

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2019 #14

    My CRV sensors only activate if reversing with the van attached.  Obviously without the van attached they react as any other car without a towbar.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2019 #15

    Does your 40 odd years in the automotive sector not answer your question? 🙄 How about a bit of 'card board engineering' and make a tow bar/ball to see if your reverse sensors 'see' it? wink

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2019 #16

    You are not always daft MM ..... good idea.

    Alan

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2019 #17

    Card board engineering has its use 😉😉

  • 1st Silverback
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    edited March 2019 #18

    I cannot deny - Making and fitting a dummy tow bar in some way may just be the answer.

    To be honest - I am not sure that I am going to get the answer any other way.

    Thanks for the idea fella's 

  • Boff
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    edited March 2019 #19

    Err no, the sensors on my 2017 Skoda Superb Estate beep if some gets too close irrespective of which gear you are in.  

    A removable tow bar and the electrics coded would be the best solution if your knees and wallet are up to it. 

  • richardandros
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    edited March 2019 #20

    "a fixed bar will cause the sensors to beep unless you switch them off"

     

    Well mine doesn't!  OK, it's a VW Touareg and not a Superb but the principle's the same. I have a Westfalia swan-neck fixed tow bar and the sensors work as normal. Plus they are automatically disabled when the van is attached.

  • lornalou1
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    edited March 2019 #21

    I have front sensors but they only beep when I get close to something if front.

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2019 #22

    It's a case of trying out MMs cardboard Blue Peter jobby idea laughing. I have sensors front and rear, and when my towball is deployed the sensors at the rear does not detect it and still works as they should, but some vehicles lower to the ground will have the towball at bumper line/sensor height.

  • Boff
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    edited March 2019 #23

    Never thought of that I have a Westphalia towbar on a Touareg when fitted and no caravan attached it doesn’t interfere with the sensors.  

    Also are you sure that you haven’t got the FF swivelling towbar.  Long shot but you never know it might have been specified. The one fitted to mine has never been used.   The release is fitted on the boot sill lhs with a small indicator led there is a good chance a dealer wouldn’t know it was there. 

  • 1st Silverback
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    edited March 2019 #24

    I would just like to thank everyone's input with this but i don't think that Touareg's, Kia's and such like can be used as a comparison.

    This latest Mk3 Superb is also equipped with something called (i think) park pilot.It basically has 12 sensors all around the car and can detect any obstacles up to 1.2 meters away  !

    Is it of any use to me - probably not but society today wants the gadgets  and its this which is causing my tow bar headache !  !This software may not be on your car yet guy's n doll's but it probably will be on your next one !

    I wasn't joking when i said i have to do pre flight checks.Anyway - I will be constructing a cardboard towbar this weekend and securing it to the rear bumper for tests - if only just to be disappointed.

    In the back of my mind i think i will end up with the westfalia detachable and specific electrics which i had on my previous car.Its just that as we get older some of us just find it difficult to get down there, align, push and fiddle with turn handles and locks frown

  • lagerorwine
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    edited March 2019 #25

    Perhaps have a look at

    https://www.briskoda.net/forum

  • eiflow
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    edited March 2019 #26

     1stS...I have a 2016 Superb Estate with a Westfalia detachable tow bar and if I leave the tow ball attached it does not get picked up by the rear sensors. HTH.