Topping up adblue

dougA
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edited June 2018 in Motorhomes #1

Hi all. I have a 2017 Elddis Autoquest 196 with a 2.0 Euro 6 Peugeot boxer.

I have only covered 6200 miles and the adblue warning light came on. Thought I would have managed more miles than this before it required topping up, then again I’m not sure if it was full when I bought new.

Anyway my question was I purchased the 10 litre container of adblue from Halfords which comes with a filling spout. When I tried to fill the adblue tank the spout was not long enough to open the filler flap. In order to pour the adblue in I had to use a long screwdriver down the side of the filling spout to open the flap so I could fill the tank. Not the best idea but it enabled be to fill the tank.

Has anyone experienced this problem and how do you manage to fill your Peugeot boxer adblue tank ?

Just to add the tank holds 15ltr and it almost took the 10ltrs so the first warning light came on with roughly 5 Litres  still in the tank.

 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2018 #2

    We have the same base vehicle, Doug. Our warning light came on at about 10k mls so it sounds as if your tank wasn’t full.

    Our Ad Blue was bought at a local garage and the container had a screw on pipe which reached and pushed the flap back with no trouble. The tank took the complete contents of the container to fill it.

  • ATDel
    ATDel Forum Participant Posts: 335
    edited June 2018 #3

    I read on another forum that the manufacturer doesn’t fill the add blue tank and also some dealers don’t either, if this is the case the only add blue in the tank will be what the manufacturer puts in when the vehicle is fired up, this could explain why the add blue miles are so different between vans. Our dealer told us we shouldn’t have to fill add blue between services..... we’ll see!

  • dougA
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    edited July 2018 #4

    Thanks Guys, I was thinking that the tank was not full to start with as I was also told that I wouldn’t need to top up between services. It’s full now so I’ll be able to see the mileage now until the warning light comes on.

    Next time I’m topping up I’ll try another add blue container to see if the funnel/ spout is longer than the Halfords one.

    Cheers 👍

  • lornalou1
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    edited July 2018 #5

    6200 miles from what could be only 10 litres used. I think that's a good result. 620mls per litre. check the handbook as usually the first warning is for say 500mls left then the second for say 300 etc etc. my jeep gives yellow then red warnings when getting really low. does your adblue filler not have a cap as if it has will not have a flap. adblue is corrosive so a cap is better.  

  • lornalou1
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    edited July 2018 #6

    taken from orbit.brightbox.com about the Elddis 196

    How will I know if the system needs topping-up?

    A series of warnings will be given via the driver information system, accompanied

    by advice/messages. The first message is displayed when the remaining range is

    approximately 1,500 miles, and is repeated every 62 miles until the range reaches

    1,000 miles, at which point the warning turns amber. This warning is repeated every

    31 miles and is accompanied by an audible tone. If these warnings are not acted upon,

    the warning turns red; once this happens the motorhome will not restart once the

    ignition is turned off. This is not a fault, but a required feature of the system. If this

    stage is reached the system will need a full top-up before the motorhome can be

    restarted. Further information is available in the vehicle handbook.

    Important Information

    • AdBlue® is not a fuel additive. This is why there is a separate AdBlue® tank

    • If you put AdBlue® in your fuel tank by mistake, please do not start the engine, but contact a retailer for help

    • Put only AdBlue® in the AdBlue® tank; do not fill the AdBlue® tank with any other liquids

    • Prevent anything from contaminating AdBlue®

    • If small quantities of AdBlue® come into contact with the vehicle’s paintwork, for example, wipe them off and if necessary rinse the

    area with wate

    Majestic 2017

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #7

    It pays to check your facts before posting and clearly the Jeep differs from the Peugeot Boxer.

    I can assure you there is a flap a few inches down inside the filler neck. I’d go and take a pic of it but it’s so hot out there.

  • ATDel
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    edited July 2018 #8

    As per this photo

     

     

  • Boff
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    edited July 2018 #9

    If you have a filer point like that I would go to a truck stop with an Adblue pump, it works for my Skoda, yes I know it’s not a MH, around about 70p/l and basically the same as filling a fuel tank. 

  • dougA
    dougA Forum Participant Posts: 142
    edited July 2018 #10

    Thanks again all. Yes as photo shows it has a cap and a flap a few inches down.

    i was not aware that the adblue has its own filling point at the truck pumps. I'll check this out for the next top up as it surely beats holding a 10ltr container while trying to open the flap.

    👍👍

  • ATDel
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    edited July 2018 #11

    Yep used to drive a lorry so wont be paying the 20ltr container price, pay at pump is the way to go

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #12

    Remove the blue filler cap and the flap can be found inside the filler pipe.

  • Apperley
    Apperley Forum Participant Posts: 254
    edited July 2018 #13

    My Adblue warning came on at 5500 miles! Just topped it up, took 10 litres. I'm driving a 2.0 litre HDI Peugeot Boxer. 

    I had the same problem, bought a 10 litre container with a filling tube which as you say is not long enough o open the gate inside the filler pipe. So I bought the 3.75 litre bottle which has a better, slightly thinner and longer tube, which did the trick. I had to decant from my 10 litre container into the 3.75 litre one then pour into the Adblue filler cap. 

    I also see the an increasing number of fuel stations have an Adblue dispenser - might try that in future too. 

  • dougA
    dougA Forum Participant Posts: 142
    edited July 2018 #14

    Thanks apperely, that’s handy to know the 3.75 ltr container fits.

    I’ll still try the pumps first as this seems the better option.

    cheers.

  • BlueVanMan
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    edited July 2018 #15

    Having completed over 5000 miles of mixed driving in the last two months I can confidently say that my Citroen/Peugeot 130 bhp Euro 6 engine is consuming about 1 litre of Adblue per 500 miles. I originally bought a four litre bottle with re-filling adapter from Halfords (or wherever)  and then 5 litres at a time from Costco (around £1 per litre) which I decant into the small bottle. The filler on the larger containers doesn't work well but the filler on the four litre bottle works well.

    In Europe I found theAdBlue dispenser (like a petrol pump but with temperature control) worked really well without spillage and was slightly cheaper than buying in containers but I have not tried an AdBlue pump in the UK. 

    If you top up your AdBlue tank to full you will be able to monitor consumption accurately as you top up but this is most relevant on a long trip where there is some possibility of running out 

  • Apperley
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    edited January 2019 #16

    I went to a nearby BP filling station today that has a pump dispensing Adblue. No problems at all. The nozzle snugly fitted my adblue filler and reached and opened the gate. Adblue dispensed and the nozzle clicked off when full. 8 litres cost £7.99, cheaper and easier than a container. No mess, no fuss.

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  • briantimber
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    edited February 2019 #19

    Today, I bought six litres of Adblue from Aldi for £4.99 (83p per litre)

    The container also has a screw on flexible hose with it.

    Hope this helps somebody......cool 

  • ocsid
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    edited February 2019 #20

    I know the advice is for Land Rover not Fiat products, but the handbook warns that forecourt HGV Adblue pumps can seriously damage their products.

    In essence, it is to do with the delivery rate of these dispensing pumps being too high, causing pressures that damage the car's system. 

    Reading here of the catheter being a nice snug fit, leaves me thinking that also then prevents free venting.

  • ATDel
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    edited February 2019 #21

    Our add blue light came on at 5997 miles last week, I had a 3 litre container which I put in then stopped at a forecourt to fill up in Spain, price was  €0.43 per litre filled up and topped the 3 litre container as well.

  • Apperley
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    edited February 2019 #22

    Thanks OcSid, your comment is worth considering, although when I used the BP pump I did notice it dispensed very slowly, a lot slower than a petrol pump. It does have a much narrower nozzle that the petrol pump.

  • Apperley
    Apperley Forum Participant Posts: 254
    edited February 2019 #23

    I've looked in my Peugeot Boxer handbook and it states that AdBlue can be added using the 5 or 10 litre containers or at the fuel filling station equipped with an AdBlue pump for heavy or light vehicles.

  • briantimber
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    edited February 2019 #24

    Aw shucks.... does  that rule out my recent purchase of a 6  litre  container.......surprisedwinkcool