After market automatic transmission coolers.

mrp62
mrp62 Forum Participant Posts: 44
edited January 2019 in Towcars & Towing #1

Im considering have AT cooling fitted to my 2013 kia sorento. To prolong the life of the transmission. 

Does any one have any experience of this , effectiveness and cost on a sorento or any other tow car with automatic transmission.

 

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  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2019 #2

    Surely there's already an OE fitment ATF cooler .... I'd be surprised if there isn't. 🤔

  • Lutz
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    edited January 2019 #3

    Unless the car manufacturer specifically recommends fitting an AT cooler when towing little will be gained and a lot will be lost (your money). If the car has a factory fitted towbar appropriate measures to cool the transmission will already have been taken so at worst it would only apply to dealer fitment, but then the dealer, too, should have taken any necessary action.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2019 #4

    I had two Sorento's , one of the same vintage as yours and never felt the need for extra cooling even towing in the mountains of Europe. Many years prior to that I had an automatic Vauxhall Charlton and the gearbox would over heat so had an extra cooler fitted. I was never convinced that it made that much difference as the gearbox continued to overheat! Not long before I traded it in I discovered that Vauxhall had an expansion kit available which would have prevented the loss of gearbox oil!!!

    David  

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2019 #5

    My early Carlton overheated too .... ☹

  • dave the rave
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    edited January 2019 #6

    all auto sorentos are fitted with transmission coolers!I was unfortunate enough to have a stone puncture the cooler of my 2010 a couple of years ago.(it is mounted behind the front grill).in fact the 2003,the 2007,the 2010 and the current 2015 all were behind the grill but they are all different.

  • mrp62
    mrp62 Forum Participant Posts: 44
    edited January 2019 #7

    Thanks for all replys. Most informative.

    What are your thoughts on changing  the at fluid ?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2019 #8

    It can never do any harm to change the ATF. I'd pay someone else to do it though.  😉

  • Metheven
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    edited January 2019 #9

    Transmission oil can get burnt if overheated, as 'MM' says it won't do any harm. It's expensive and needs to be exact in volume though so best get someone to do it.

    Get the person who changes it to smell it. 

  • dave the rave
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    edited January 2019 #10

    YES...The gearbox requires a complete drain,re-fill with required quantity-warmed up to a specified temperature and then topped up to level.not a diy job.Kia,however,say that the fluid is for life!(also a certain amount of fluid will always reman in the torque convertor).Have a look at  UK sorento forum.All the advice and help you could ever need about your car!

  • Milothedog
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    edited January 2019 #11

    You will never get a complete change either as the TC will still retain most of whats inside it when the fluid is drained. It maybe worth looking at getting it flushed to put your mind at rest. There are companies out there now that can offer this service using specialist dialysis type machines. 

    We used to do it at work with our cooling systems with a similar type of machine.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2019 #12

    Some torque converters do still (apparently some Mercs) have a drain on them. But as you say, the easy way (with the correct kit) is to fill & drain the system via a cooler hose.

    Having said I'd now pay someone to do it for me, I did a partial ATF replacement on my last car & changed about half of it. If I could find the will to post a picture I would  ..... but I can't innocent

  • Milothedog
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    edited January 2019 #13

    Interesting, the only TC I have ever come across like that was in the Voith DIWA transmission. When you drained the gearbox, once empty there was an additional drain plug which you accessed through the drain hole to drain the TC. Also German technology.

    On my Triumph Stag with a BW35 in it, I just did 3 oil changes over a month or so . But ATF for that is a lot cheaper than modern fluids like Dexron and other specialist types in modern boxes.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited January 2019 #14

    And I guess you have a dip stick to fill your gearbox with new fluid, cars don't generally get a dipstick any more. 🤔

  • DS3
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    edited January 2019 #15

    All autos will have a cooler. They actually say that changing the oil in an auto box can do more harm than good as draining the oil cause small depsits to end up where they shouldn't be, so I would only change it if it is burnt or a terrible colour. Most auto boxes need to have the sump taken off as that is the only way to drain the oil, as the oil is meant to last the life of the car, something I find extremely poor advice.

    You will also need a filter and gasket set, plus the correct grade and amount of oil. You will also need the correct instructions on how to fill it up and check the level. It is a messy, smelly and expensive job, but if you have a day, and a way of getting the car off the ground, and level, then it is quite possible to do it yourself if you know one end of a spanner from the other.

    You don't say why you feel the need for an oil cooler or an oil change? My advice, if it is running ok, leave well alone.