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  • Boff
    Boff Forum Participant Posts: 1,742
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    edited January 2019 #32

    so to go for any other type of cylinder system would be silly to say the least”

    You forgot to add for us. For us we started with a full 10kg Safefill bottle at new year and after 4 nights + 1 on electric, I was supprised that there was still a little bit of gas slopping  around.  It won’t last me next weekend.  I calculate approximately 2kg of gas per 24hrs off ehu winter.   That is approximately £2 if using a refillable or £8 if using a Calorlite.  So for me to use a Calorlite would be silly to say the least.   

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2019 #33

    JVB did not need to say 'for us' as he described his situation clearly. 

    We normally are away for 160 + nights away useing EHU with gas used for some cooking and have now had our latest 6kgcalor propane in use for over two years

    That is very little gas. I am always on EHU but would reckon on one and a half 3.9kg bottles a year for 120 nights. 

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2019 #34

    The biggest advantage of refillable is the ability to replenish gas supplies whilst abroad, an important factor for those who take extended trips.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2019 #35

    I would have thought perhaps so CY if on less than (say) 10 amp EHU or those that rally or use non- EHU pitches. 

  • Boff
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    edited January 2019 #36

    Nope he made a statement that required qualification.   With that qualification it is clear that the statement is correct for his and I would presume your circumstances.   If my usage was the same as yours then I would come to the same conclusion.  

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2019 #37

    As JVB made his circumstances clear I disagree entirely Boff. Nowt new there then some might say laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2019 #38

    I think you need to read my post in the context of how i posted rather than jump in with the protectionist of your prefered gas supplierwink

  • rayjsj
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    edited January 2019 #39

    Why is everyone so touchy ? Is it 'cabin fever' ?

    I have 2 x calorlite 6kg, as i like to keep the load margin to allow my wife ' Imelda Marcus' to take most of her shoe collection with her.

    Did consider an 11kg gaslow system, but our gas useage doesnt warrant the initial outlay, as we also are mainly EHU people, and mainly in the UK.

  • Boff
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    edited January 2019 #40

    Sorry, but not surprised that you failed to comprehend what I was saying in my post kiss  My subsequent post in reply to Easy T I believe is fairly unambiguous.   

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2019 #41

    I am not suprised you failed in the first place to read my post before the as expected replytongue-out

  • Lyke Wake Man
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    edited April 2019 #42

    why is the dealer advising 2 refillable bottles, with refillable you only need 1 as you don't have to wait until it's empty, you pop to a garage and top up when you want.

     

    I have a 7.5 k.h. safefill and just top up when I wand and only have the 1

  • DaveandVicki
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    edited April 2019 #43

    You are assuming that there will be somewhere nearby and open when you need to refill, not always the case.

    We have 2 safefill 7.5kg bottles after we nearly ran out of gas the other Christmas.

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2019 #44

    Just for the record,,,

    "LPG (Liquid Petroleum Gas) is a natural gas that contains a mixture of propane and butane and it is produced during the oil refining process or is extracted during the natural gas production process."

    Having said that I've not had a problem with it (LPG) at lower temperatures as you would with butane alone.

    We have a refillable LPG tank, not sure if I would have chosen one, pretty sure I wouldn't, but they were a standard fitting on my van. The jury's out on that at present.

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  • mickysf
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    edited April 2019 #46

    It's interesting to note regarding the mixture ratios that generally the further north in Europ you go the greater the propane content. Norway for example has a 'minimum'  90% propane content. Also, here in the UK it's generally 80% propane although seasonal differences can occur.

    It was porported a while ago that Flogas were using close to a 100% propane content but I can't verify that. 

     

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  • mickysf
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    edited April 2019 #48

    But Butane is also a LPG as is Propane. Autogas is a mixture of LPGs.

  • Popty 51
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    edited April 2019 #49

    Hi all, a question for all the professionals, as a new comer to using our motorhome, I was wondering if I can use butane in the motorhome, I have a full 4.5kg (blue) bottle of butane from our camping days, & now need to know if I can use this up in our 2005 Swift motorhome, as I have no wish loose the gas by exchanging it for a full propane cylinder, I know the butane cylinder has a male thread & my propane hose has a male left hand thread at the cylinder end (for the propane), I can get an adaptor to fit to the blue cylinder, allowing me to connect the left hand threaded hose connector to the blue cylinder, & I know about the LPG atomising off at different temperatures, but will all be OK  

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  • Navigateur
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    edited April 2019 #52

    I once asked one of the high ups in Calor who was on a Question and Answer panel what they saw as the consumers' reason for wanting to use butane.  His explanation of the difference of the performance of the two gases was simple. Propane was for use where the off-take from the cylinder could be at a low temperature, such as outdoors or in winter. Butane was for use where the cylinder would be warm, possibly benefiting from the heat it was supplying, such as indoors in a room heater, and a cheaper gas could be used.

  • Merve
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    edited April 2019 #53

    I have come to this discussion late and I note certain comments about Safefill and little digs about me- he just can’t help himself can he?🤣🤣Firstly, there are very good reasons why Safefill are short of stock and it’s NOT Safefills fault. More Cylinders are arriving early May (1000) of all sizes. The reason people are finding difficulties in securing one is that they are flying off the shelves as soon as they come into stock- that must tell you something surely. Neil at Safefill is doing his damdest to get more cylinders into the country but because he has been forced to change suppliers, it is proving challenging but not impossible. Safefill’s are certainly worth waiting for and are the only free standing cylinder that is approved for use by Morrison’s- again- that should tell you something. Propane is certainly the gas that I would use and with Safefills I am assured of doing so. 

  • mickysf
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    edited May 2019 #54

    So johntomo, which gas system did you opt for? I notice you have a tendancy to never return to the threads you start, nothing particularly wrong with that but I'm sure your fellow contributors to your thread would  really appreciate some feedback on your experiences. How's it going?

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2019 #55

    there were Safefill cylinders on sale at Tyneside leisure the other day, first time I had seen them there (price £118 is that good?)

  • cyberyacht
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    edited May 2019 #56

    For a full sized 10Kg one, it is. From memory mine was about £170 with carriage.