The supply of serviced pitches

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  • Tammygirl
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    edited January 2019 #92

    Husky you're only supposed to drink it not swim in it laughing

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2019 #93

    no curtain twitching, no checking,  just that we couldn't avoid the rolling past our van each morning (while we breakfasted) .....and some evenings ....it was obvious (with the associated racket) that the trip was a regular one..

    either way, IMHO, 80 ltr water is a huge amount in a day....we manage to both shower, wash up a couple of times a day, have tea/coffee, use the loo, clean teeth, wash hands etc on around 20-22 ltr...tank holds 120 ltr, lasts 5 days...

    without showers in the van, around 10-12 ltr a day, a tank lasts ten days or so.

    perhaps we're just thrifty...

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2019 #94

    agreed, TH, that was why I was bemused...but mustnt discuss (others) as it will be construed as CT ing......Curtain Twitchingundecided

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2019 #95

    Only by one esteemed fellow poster, BB. Think "north of the border"! laughing

    No, not Tammy - guess again! wink

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2019 #97

    Yes, I agree 100% with that. I think it was Steve who said earlier maybe aim for 25% of pitches on sites to be SP - they are undoubtedly popular and used equally by vanners and MHers. But let's retain the choice for folk who don't want or need them - and the latter seems to include many who actually choose to ay the extra. Their choice, their money. Not for us though. smile

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2019 #98

    Be interesting to find out how many MH owners choose a serviced pitch purely because they tend to be hard standing. This is sort of relevant information Club should be collecting. We can just about manage on any surface with our small MH and carrying some waffles, but large MHs probably need HS in this country most of the time.  Not sure how useful a tap and waste is though, unless the MH never moves. 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2019 #99

    We certainly come cross many motorhomes that don't seem to go off site other than to move on

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2019 #100

    Agreed, but I also question which pitches on a site should be consider for turning into 'serviced' ones if more were to be created. Would it be those which are already considered by some as 'prime pitches' for what ever reason?

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2019 #101

    Would it be those which are already considered by some as 'prime pitches' for what ever reason?

    Why not those that are in the least favoured, most frequently unused position?wink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2019 #102

    “Prime pitches” baffle me to be honest.  Certainly on most of Club Sites we have used. Ok, one or two might be on loch/lake/sea front, but we aren’t on site long enough in day to feel disheartened if we don’t get one. There are far better sites than Club ones if this is required. I am guessing most serviced pitches will be be near other facilities for ease of pipe runs, unless it’s a new site designed from scratch. 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2019 #103

    I am guessing most serviced pitches will be be near other facilities for ease of pipe runs, unless it’s a new site designed from scratch. 

    The water supply runs are normally less of a problem than the waste drains regarding fall to suitable point

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited January 2019 #104

    I think MHs are bought for two main reasons ET. One is to tour around, from place to place, often only staying one or two nights in the same location. Others are bought because they are easier to cope with in certain ways than a caravan and tow car, but in essence are used in the same way, parked up and left on site.

    Many folks brand new to touring, not coming from either a camping or a caravan background, tend to go for something too big to use easily in UK, seeing the comfort, space and  ease of a fixed bed, much like a caravan, but then find it’s not so easy to tour on our small roads and cramped towns. These are generalisations I know but folks have different priorities of what they like to do. We kept our caravan for parking up on one site for a long time, but we love touring around at the moment. Neither needs a serviced pitch though, that little bit of exercise we get filling and emptying does us good.laughing

    Edit: I have just thought of a very good reason for a serviced pitch, but not sure if there is a tourer with a dishwasher designed in yet? That might get me onto a serviced pitch once in a while!😂

  • mickysf
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    edited January 2019 #105

    Now that could be a solution. Making the least attractive pitches or sites more attractive to some may help somewhat for the rest of us!laughing

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited January 2019 #106

    Just what I was thinking.

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  • EasyT
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    edited January 2019 #108

    Presently £3.90 David. For us on our usual 5 night stay and one fill/empty I would be paying £19.50 to fill an aquaroll once and to empty waste once. I could fill with bottled water for our needs and pay less!

  • cariadon
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    edited January 2019 #109

    I noticed that many service pitches are near the toilet block, I would have thought they should be on the pitches furthest away, But I suppose the cost is the major factor for this.

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2019 #110

    Probably more of a consideration when retro fitting to existing sites, such as Cirencester. On the totally new section at Bridlington they are furthest from the new block.

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2019 #111

    years ago, EHU was a luxury element of vanning...as time went on, EHU was made more widely available and then (virtually) compulsory at main CC sites....(yes, I know there are a few exceptions but AFAIK there isn't a site where you can choose not to have EHU in the same way as you can with CCC)

    so, now we have a drive to add 'value' (cost) to more pitches, increasing choice (availability) for those who want SP, but at the same time, restricting it for those who don't...

    vans have changed a lot since those early days of EHU.....many vans don't require it due to things like cheap refillable gas, large battery banks and solar panels.

    similarly, many modern MH have large fresh and waste tanks which allow them to operate away from plumbed in water supplies for many days at a time....often the whole length of the stay...

    having these improvements gives flexibility, and part of that is (sometimes) not requiring EHU or SP.

    im all for the club improving sites to allow vans to operate at all levels for all customers, but if SP is rolled out 'too much' that will add cost to those who don't want/need it.

    with EHU adding around £3-4 a night and an SP costing £3.90 that's upto almost £8 a night for services that a good proportion may well not need.

    improve the pitches, by all means, but not to the point where customers have little choice.....

    now the club has openly declared 'headline' pricing (the new 'price from' approach) perhaps time for a more menu driven flexible approach?

     

  • Randomcamper
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    edited January 2019 #112

    I assume the Club monitors the occupancy rate for serviced pitches versus non SP and then aims to tailor the number of SP's accordingly.....?

    Anecdotelly I notice when looking to book pitches at a couple of my favourite sites it is always the SP's that are booked up way into the future.....

    Now quite obviously, the customer is always wrong. They've got these fancy vans loaded to the gunwhales with refillable gas bottles, a forest of solar panels, rows of batteries, and they still choose an SP.

    Just how wrong can those naughty customers be....

    And shame on the club for pandering to them.......

     

    wink

     

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #113

    yes indeed, and this happens on all the sites that I've visited that have SP, including those with all HS.

    smile

  • young thomas
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    edited January 2019 #114

    yes, roll on a full roll out.....and the commensutate price hike....undecided

    give customers choice, whatever next.

  • DaveCyn
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    edited January 2019 #115

    Refillable gas bottle - check

    Solar panel - check

    Serviced pitch - NO THANKS

     

    On the subject of their location I'm very disappointed that in a lot of cases when "updating" standard pitches they opt to convert those very close to disabled facilities and earmarking others further away for their use. The vast majority of people who need these facilities have restricted mobility but are now being located further from them.

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #116

    I'm sure exactly the same  comments appeared when EHU was being rolled out, or the change from from grass to HS.

  • DaveCyn
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    edited January 2019 #117

    Just been looking at the pitch prices at Alderstead Heath, up to £15.70 per night for a serviced pitch against £1.50 for a basic pitch. I make that £14.20 a night for EHU & water hook up!

     

    NO THANKS!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #118

    good news all round, you are not forced to have one, and that will leave more for us that do want pitches like that.

    probably club sites aren't really for you though?

  • moulesy
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    edited January 2019 #119

     Where are you seeing £1.50, Dave?

    I can only see the cheapest pitch fee as £7.50 (£3.90 extra for SP. )

    Edit - yes, just spotted £1.50 for a non electric pitch, good to have that choice for those who want it!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2019 #120

    yes quite, beat me to it M, you'll still have to pay the per person fee on top of the basic pitch fee? 

  • Randomcamper
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    edited January 2019 #121

    give customers choice, whatever next.

    I know, it's like if you were selling.......well, say shoes as an example....wink

    "Hello sir, here are your new shoes, thats's £40 please.....

    And would you like some laces sir, they're  £5....

    And some insoles...?.....they're another fiver.....

    And a box to take them home in....?   that's a £1....

    And a carrier bag to carry them to your car....?.....thats 10p...

    Oh, and don't forget the upsell......some polish sir.....?....thats £2....."

    Or we could just have some bl**dy shoes wrapped & ready to go for £50.....

    wink

     

    Lifes too short to fanny around with menu pricing, don't be a cheapskate......!

     

    innocent