The supply of serviced pitches
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As ET says no so, At Easter at the Edinburgh site I was told by a warden that SP are very much in demand with motor homes. Indeed on 'our' row of 10, 6 were taken by MHs. Last month at Troutbeck head a fair few SP were again used by MH
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agree with Steve, a sensible proportion for those who want them, but definitely not on all pitches....
with fairly large water tanks the SP doesn't have the same attraction for is as for those who need to fill more often....aquaroll etc.
in the uk, we only stay perhaps a week max and don't need a top up.
however, we have stayed long term on foreign sites for many weeks and the SP there have proved useful.....but many sites have these built into their std pitches....at least a tap...
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I'm not sure that's the case, CY. I use Cirencester Park quite a bit for quick breaks - from what I've seen last year since the introduction of a number of new serviced pitches there are roughly equal numbers of MHs and caravans on them. Whether they are actually using them as intended I couldn't say.
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I Agree, also with M's post above.
We spent a considerable time at Cirencester this year, on our seasonal pitch. Every time I walked to the block I was facing 8 of the 16 service pitches. Invariably at least half of the filled pitches were MHs.
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We neither NEED or WANT a service pitch, certainly not if it carries a £4 a night charge. However we have used a serviced pitch when we had a MH not that we booked it in advance but we were fortunate to got a cancellation at Stonehaven for the New Years Eve Fire Balls.
Like ET we often only stay on site for 4 or 5 nights so one fill of the water and waste does us as we use onsite facilities. CL's of course are a different matter there a service pitch would be useful.
Like others we have had the good fortune to use sites where service pitches are part of the price Harbury Fields spring to mind, we don't carry any of the hoses or pipes that is required to connect to the equipment but it is nice to have water on or near the pitch for filling the kettle but I wouldn't pay extra for that.
MH's tend to book service pitches not to use the facility but so they can secure a H/S something this club seems not to be able to get their head around or is it they know that and just want to extract as much money out of you as possible.
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MH's tend to book service pitches not to use the facility but so they can secure a H/S
Not true at TH, Edinburgh, or Bridlington (another site where SP were well taken up be MH) as these sites are all hard standing.
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MH's tend to book service pitches not to use the facility but so they can secure a H/S something this club seems not to be able to get their head around or is it they know that and just want to extract as much money out of you as possible.
Not the case at Cirencester. The grass closes at the end of September and there were plenty of MH's using the service pitches right through to December, despite plenty of availability on standard pitches.
Also Chatsworth, all hardstanding, generally around half are filled with Motorhomes. I doubt they are all because that was the only pitch available.
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there are many MHers who have come from caravan ownership...
there are also a few MH suppliers (almost exclusively UK) who fit 'pumped access' water systems, just like the caravans they have come from (gives them a cosy feeling?)...
with these systems, a large container (aquaroll) is an integral part of the 'fill it every day' ethos which mirrors what they did with their caravans...
put these two together and a tap on the pitch, complete with ball valve filler etc saves the daily trek.
getting the picture....
similarly, small waste tanks (certainly a common trait) and 'unlimited' input water supply which usually means generous usage....doesn't fit with a small waste tank so a Wastemaster would normally be needed.
but wait, a SP provide waste too, so a done deal, even at £3.90 a night.
at Minehead a few weeks back, there were a young couple opposite us in new Bailey.
we were there three nights and i half filled the tank at home (Minehead supply is desperately slow) which was more than enough to last us...I just emptied at the MHSP on the way out...
yet in the same period I noticed the young chap fill the aquaroll everyday and empty the Wastemaster as often, with sometimes two visits to the tap/drain...perhaps his dad did this in the caravan?
I must say he was very slim, must have walked several hundred metres to and fro....
im sure he would have loved a SP.....but what's the point?
why did he need to fill/empty everyday while, with only half a tank, we never went near a tap?
oh, I saw them use the site showers, so it wasn't that...so where was all that water going?.....
anyway, a Baileys tank would surely enable three days of 'full use'...well I would hope so.
so, perhaps some of the MH users are still in caravan mode?
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MH's tend to book service pitches not to use the facility but so they can secure a H/S
Definitely not the case at Southport at any time or on many sites out of peak
something this club seems not to be able to get their head around or is it they know that and just want to extract as much money out of you as possible.
I think that the club can easily get their head around it but don't wish to be left with unsold sites when all hard standings are booked. I might be wrong of course
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...but as we know Alan, in just about every discussion, you are the exception that proves the rule
I wonder what that couple were doing with their 80 ltrs a day then?
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We only fill our aqua roll once, on arrival,other than that a 7litre watering can is used to keep it topped up daily, when at what used to be,the place men could hold an intelligent conversation without femail interferance
,, the waste master is emptied approx every 4 days,so no queue at MVSP when leaving,i think when on sites some still use water in their LVs as if like at home Ps i have noted more and more MCs owners are useing top up containers now
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One of the reasons we swapped to a MH was to get away from the necessity to carry/roll water to and from the van. These days it’s simplicity itself to stop at a tap/drain on entry to, or exit from, a site and use the tanks in the manner intended.
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btw the phrase exception that proves the rule is always mis-interpreted, when it was written proves meant test, ie prove it, so the phrase really means the exception tests the rule, which makes more sense.
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as kids in school would say of you Alan, you're a legend
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In his own lunchtime👍🏻🙂
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I wonder what that couple were doing with their 80 ltrs a day then?
We use around 80 litres a day and do not see our consumption as excessive. It is easily managed with a double Aquaroll set-up where one is coupled to the caravan as normal, and the other follows me on a couple of trips to the ablutions block and back again, so no additional exercise required. We also keep a further 40 litres in the onboard tank as a reserve - though Bailey's location of the valves is as awkward as can be!
Here is where it goes:-
- Full shower for male occupant once a day
- Partial shower for female occupant many many times a day
- Dishwashing and rinsing for four meals a day for two people.
- Wine and beer glass washing
- Teeth cleaning and hand washing as required
There is also the water for tea, coffee, etc making and cooking but for that a seperate container is used to avoid drawing stale water from the storage system.
Surely almost everyone does this, unless they are out all day or frequently going out in cold to ablutions block for everything.
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yes, when we use non SP we have two aquarolls a 40 and 29 litre and that keeps us going for a whole day, being refilled after breakfast. We usually swapped over at night.
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"I wonder what that couple were doing with their 80 ltrs a day then?"
It wouldn't be anything I'd wonder about when on site to be honest, much less keep a check on how many times my neighbours were using which facilities. (I think that's what one esteemed fellow poster might describe as "curtain twitching"!) I'm all for showing an interest in my fellow holiday makers but there is such a thing as carrying to too great an extreme!
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Surely almost everyone does this, unless they are out all day or frequently going out in cold to ablutions block for everything.
I don't think that 'almost everybody' uses anywhere near that amount of water on a facility site Nav. On our 15 stay over Christmas at Southport we were sited adjacent to the 'old' facility block - on the leeward side of the prevailing winds and at the end housing water and waste water. Most days I was up at 6.30 or earlier and we tended not to go out much before 10am. We were generally back around 3pm and blinds open all round until turned 9pm. There was not a constant stream filling water.
Unless we are a distance from the shower block we use the facility block. Water use in our time in the caravan would be limited to cooking, washing dishes, making brews and washing hands after going for a pee etc. I doubt more than 6 litres a day.
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Easy, I was meaning that almost everyone does those activities, rather than the amount of water they use to achieve them !
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I can only speak from my own conversations with other MH users who state that they "always book" a SP so they can get a H/S. As I said we don't. I know that some sites are all H/S but not all are or have been, some have recently had more installed.
If the M/H's are not connecting to the water supply and are not booking one to secure a H/S it does make you wonder why they would pay £4 a night, some members consider motorhomers to be free loaders, clearly that is not the case.
BB, most Bailey MH's have a 100 ltr fresh and waste tank, not all Bailey MH have the whale pump fill. Why anyone would need to keep filling from a barrel in the time you stated I have no idea. We used to half fill a tank for about 5 days when on a facilities site, I can't remember ever running out. We did tend to use a small waste container in the winter or if we were on site for a long time when abroad.
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We have used a couple of serviced pitches last year. On one site we had no choice because every pitch was serviced. On a no facility Club site I booked and paid for a service pitch. I have to say I rather enjoyed the experience. We always use our own facilities so need to collect water or dispose of waste more frequently than those that don't. If it was only a couple of pounds a night extra I would use them more regularly.
David
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Who's to say what would be the average consumption. We don't really have enough data, with the few on CT. We fill a 40 ltr Aqua roll every day and empty the waste master. We don't always totally consume it but it is generally close. We use it for drinks, washing up and hand washing. Unless on a service pitch we don't generally use the caravan shower, prefering to use the site facilities. Therefore I guess if we were in a MH we would need to fill / empty every 2.5 / 3 days.
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"I wonder what that couple were doing with their 80 ltrs a day then?"
They must be drinking the stuff.
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Interesting to read how much water folks get through per day and what they use it for as we've often wondered why couples are constantly filling aquarolls after only a few hours on site.
Okay, we don't shower in our caravan but we do wash ourselves and wash all dishes. Drinks come from water drawn fresh daily and so our 40 litre aquaroll only needs topping up midweek for a seven night stay.
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