A Fine at Chester Fairoaks
A male warden at the Chester site is imposing a £75 fine on members whose wheel touches any grass.
Anyone know if this is in the club's terms and conditions, or is this guy a bit of a Lone Ranger?
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Not April 1st already is it?
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I think that warden has a sense of humour as well. 😄
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at least it made people think
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OK so £75 for wheel on grass, suggestion amounts for other crimes?
Cutting through pitches? speeding?
could mention dogs without leads but I won't
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When we were there a month or two back the wardens there really impressed me. I can only imagine that the threat was said in jest as there is no such rule, they do have a good sense of humour. Wardens are naturally concerned about people churning up the grass as at this time of year it takes a long time to repair. Anyway the pitches at Chester Fairoaks are large enough not to touch a blade of grass (assuming your are not using a grass pitch
) if you position and retrieve your outfit correctly.David
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One cannot blame the caravan, be it trailer or motorised, for damage to the grass. It is the operator that causes the damage. Either through incompetence or anti-social carelessness.
I was on a site of another club a few days ago where ground works were underway to convert about 20 grass pitches to hard standing, and eight-wheel 40 tonne wagons were removing and bringing in material. They did not go onto the grass but negotiated the site roads successfully. However, many of the much smaller motor caravans using the same roads were churning up grass, and lots of mud by the ones that became stuck.
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The narrowness of club site roads often provide inadequate 'swing' room.
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However, unlike MH's with a caravan there is often an alternative. I have seen folk reverse their van onto the pitch, in the process putting some nice ruts in a grass margin, only to finally position it with the power mover. Why not use the power mover to put it on the pitch and avoid the ruts and mud dragged onto the road.🤔
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Since when has a warden taken on the duties of a PPC as there is no ways that they can impose a fine as that can only be done by the council, police or magistrate.
He can issue you with a worthless piece of paper begging for you to give him some money however he should be reported to the CC for trying to collect money illegally if he was genuine about it however somehow i think it was said in jest.
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I agree with SteveL that there is often no reason for the damage to grass. I can understand the frustration which must be felt by site wardens who have to carry out the repairs. Many of the wardens are very proud of their site, and why not?
However, wardens have no right as far as I know to impose fines for damage caused by stupidity.
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I'm amazed at how those huge bin wagon drivers negotiate the older housing areas of our cities. I struggle with my car but can with care navigate through narrow streets with massed parking on either side of the road, some very tight bends there too. What's more I notice the odd caravan and mototorhome parked curb side along these streets, if mine that would frighten me to death.
I reckon no warden would seriously mention fines, sence of humour required me thinks.
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think you're taking this too seriously
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also on our estate, a with serveral cul-de-sacs, the bins wagon always reverse in, and there are lots of (to a bin wagon) tight curves.
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A little off topic but many bin lorries have rear wheel steering which helps them get in and out of tight spots. Mind you I think I would rather reverse a caravan onto a pitch!!!
David
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Hi
I worked a site a couple of years back where there were two hardstanding pitches that the grass either side was getting constantly trashed. One day I asked our skip lorry driver if he could reverse on and drive off both pitches to see if we needed to do some redesigning. So a six wheel 12 ton lorry (no rear steer) on and off both pitches twice and not a tyre tread touching the grass. I tried it with my own twin axle caravan, no problems. (Pitches opposite still occupied)
I think the warden mentioned in the op is as frustrated as I get when we constantly have to repair ground unnecessarily. A little time and patience will get you safely onto the tightest space if needs be.
Fair play to that warden for having a decent sense of humour.
Happy New Year Al
JK l
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I feel that it might also depend on the tow bus. I know that my X-Trail has a poor turning circle which does make maneuvering in some tight long-standing town car parks more difficult and also reversing a caravan. I almost always use the motor mover though as I need it for fitting the Alko lock anyway.
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I don't recall ever seeing either a caravan or a motor-home mount a kerb whilst going around a roundabout or junction, no matter how tight the turn. However, I have often seen both caravans and motor-homes allow wheels to go on the grass whilst turning easier corners on site roads despite the white poles etc placed there by wardens, and once saw a member knock down a low wooden fence on leaving a pitch ! Some seem to display a level of inexperience or get in too much of a panic. Thankfully the vast majority appear very capable at tight manoeuvres.
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but there are still plenty of CC pitches that are impossible to reverse a caravan on to without encroaching into the grass somewhere. And it's not always when pitching the caravan that a car wheel strays onto the grass, I find that pitches are only just wide enough for a car, caravan & awning and even when pitched exactly to the peg I just don't have enough room to park alongside my caravan, waste water and Aquaroll without touching the grass.
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Perhaps if the sites were better thought out regarding their design, there would cease to be instances of wheels touching the precious grass. Their " Pack em in" attitude is whats really to blame. ---------------One point in this argument is :- If wheels on grass is so dreadfully detrimental to the green stuff --- Why are grass pitches still being sold at the same price as hardstanding ones ?. OR even, if the CMC organisation does not want wheels on grass.why are they sold at all .?
"The Friendly Club" copes perfectly well offering their members a choice of pitch types to suit their requirements and have no hang ups about wheels on grass whatsoever.
K
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““The Friendly Club" copes perfectly well offering their members a choice of pitch types to suit their requirements and have no hang ups about wheels on grass whatsoever. ”
Oh yes they do. I’ve witnessed wardens unhitch vans and manhandle them onto pitches rather than risk the driver attempting to pitch.
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Hi DD, Yes I think we members of the C&CC have often seen Holiday site managers of the Friendly club accompany and assist members pitching their outfits, while explaining the site layout and the local attractions. I believe it's part of the customer orientated service for which the C&CC are renowned .
I have to agree with you when you said ,Quote " but I can't see a CC Ltd warden helping in that way; "elf n safety" and all that
--. Might use his or her little tractor though" 
.-----Although. during my 30 something years as a customer of the CC, I personally, have never seen such assistance given.K
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Although. during my 30 something years as a customer of the CC, I personally, have never seen such assistance given.
I have only seen a warden assist with a tractor 3 times in the last 10 years that I can recall. Such assistance is not normally required.
I find that, for me, when Holiday site managers of the Friendly club accompany and assist members pitching it is more of a hindrance than a help. If that is what floats your boat though K then you made the right choice regarding clubs
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I would imagine this post is totally & utterly hearsay tosh & is another example of complete fiction & fake news.
The standard & content of some posts on this forum needs to be taken with a very large pinch of salt . 😜
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and then again there are Drivers 
and in amongst our fellow members there are all types.
