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  • rayjsj
    rayjsj Forum Participant Posts: 930
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    edited November 2018 #32

    I agree with others, a Safari room ties the motorhome to the pitch and the advantages of it , over a caravan dissapears, plus as said they are heavy. If its onsite storage you need,  a standalone  awning or even a pop-up tent could be used.

    However the wind- out canopies are Very useful, we use ours mainly as a rain shelter, suitably strapped down and tilted to allow run-off. For feeding and drying off the dog, before coming into the van, But can be wound in and cleared away in minutes.     Have Fun ! 

  • Popty 51
    Popty 51 Forum Participant Posts: 21
    edited December 2018 #33

    Hi all, as we have now purchased our first motorhome, I could do with some help and/or advice for fitting a sat nav system.

    #We have a 2005 Fiat Ducato with a single din slot for the stereo, I tried to fit a single din stereo with flip out screen for the sat nav/reversing camera etc, but this version of Ducato has a flip up map holder/route planner, and as the stereo fits in under this flip up holder, when the new stereo screen came out it fouled the map holder and would not stay out, so can anyone advise on how to overcome this issue, or can the standard Fiat single din radio pod with map holder be replaced with an aftermarket double din pod, then I would have more choice of a replacement audio system, I have fitted a dash cam & managed to hide all the wiring, so I don't want a separate sat nav system to clutter up the dash, any help would be appreciated.

  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
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    edited December 2018 #34

    I know you don't want a separate sat nav but they are far easier to upgrade, add poi files, etc, etc...

    some (expensive) dash satnavs require (expensive) discs or memory sticks to conduct map updates...

    my german (not garminwink) in dash satnav doesn't use full postcodes, annoying, I've no idea how to add my many POI files of sites, CLs, aires, GPL stations etc, etc...also annoying.

    looks nice, thoughwink

    i use a TomTom and have tucked the wiring away so doesn't clutter the dash much....so easy to update on my PC.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #35

    I know you don't want a separate sat nav but they are far easier to upgrade, add poi files, etc, etc...

    I agree, when I bought my X-Trail 13 years ago I started of by looking at the options. When first looking I was told that I could get one with a built in satnav at no extra cost. I said hat I was not interested for the reason that you suggest BB but, also I did not like its central location and preferred the alternative of an additional cubby hole

  • Aspenshaw
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    edited December 2018 #36

    I'm with the 'no safari room' and 'separate satnav' band for the reasons given already. I'd add that it is better to get to know the motorhome before splashing out too much more cash on accessories.

    I prefer Truckers maps to satnavs but in Britain more and more roads are poorly signposted because of cuts to the maintenance budgets; I concluded a satnav was worthwhile. I bought a c£100 Garmin model [no longer made] which is great for cars but for motorhomes will send us down single track roads and on a couple of occasions across farmland if we let it. It's also rubbish at following a route I prefer. I am reluctant to shell out for a Truckers satnav and I definitely wouldn't buy a Motorhome satnav because I don't want all the clutter it comes with.

    I chose to have the clutter of a separate satnav because it enabled me to locate it to get a better line of sight [stuck anywhere on the bottom of the windscreen depending on whether the passenger wants/needs to see it].

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2018 #37

    I have an ageing TomTom sat nav with Camper Maps installed and I have been very pleased with it and have rarely had a problem with it taking me on incompatible routes. Having said that we have a new motorhome on order and that will have a built in Peugeot sat nav. I have no idea what that will be like and my current thinking is to give that a try before deciding whether I need to invest in a new TomTom Camper freestanding sat nav.

    David

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2018 #38

     David, I don't know how old your TT is, but if it can be updated by dragging and dropping POI etc, and you are happy with the mapping, and perhaps has lifetime updates...the. hang on to it.....I would not go for a more modern TT.

    Whilst the navigation is terrific (traffic and rerouting superb) the POI handling is prehistoric...no user icons can be downloaded, files have to be downloaded one at a time (rather than dragging the whole lot in one go) and then assigned a generic icon....

    so, LPG stations are a blue blob rather tha. an icon saying LPG, similarly I can't now distinguish between club sites or CLs as there aren't enough generic icons and my brain hurts with just half a dozen....

    ....now we're my ACSI sites red or green.....diamond or square?...

    i still keep my old Classic XXL as back up which is terrific for finding POIs but the map can't be updated...

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited December 2018 #39

    I used an old TT Go, albeit with outdated maps. Even that is almost a better option than the Peugeot built-in one. DK you will not like it. POI's can only be loaded manually one at a time.

  • EasyT
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    edited December 2018 #40

    Quite happy with my TomTom Start 60

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2018 #41

    Unfortunately mine is a Start 60 and you can only update/add POI's via TomTom Mydrive Connect. The changes to this software now do not allow you to add an image if setting up a new group of POI's. I have tried to update Archies but I have no idea if it has been successful. I even asked Archie what new campsites he had added so I could check that way but I think the there were no new campsites! I do have the option to carry on using the current sat nav but it would be nice to get rid of some clutter.

    David

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2018 #42

    CY

    Does it have any built in POI's for campsites? Don't fancy adding ACSI campsites one at a timesurprised

    David

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2018 #43

    Sadly not. There are no POI's at all that I've found, not even fuel stops. I keep pondering getting a cheapie tablet and loading something like Co-Pilot.

  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
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    edited December 2018 #44

    CY, have you been brave enough to open the note pad holder on top of the dash, yet?smile

    my TT will allow one file at a time, rather than one specific POI, but that's bad enough with around 20 odd to load....

    i expect my MH dash system is Blaupunkt (in a Pioneer unit) and the Germans don't have the same length postcodes...

    France is the same, I remember our first venture abroad and dialling in the first ACSI site...this is easy.....no....driving around the countryside for ages with the thing telling me 'you have reached your destination'.....nothing to be seen for miles around....

    we were at least 5km from the campsite, French postcodes can cover very large areas...

    so, haven't even thought about my own POIs on that Blaunkt, too complex, although I am convinced there are some pre loaded (not camping though) ...it's there for back up if all the TTs fail...

    finding sites (and especially Aires) in winter time in short hours of daylight requires exact coordinates, so to that end, a POI set is invaluable.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2018 #45

    Your enquiry has acted as a reminder and I've just been out to have a go. By some cautious levering with a couple of flat-bladed screwdrivers, I have managed to prise up the forward end but I can't raise it more than an inch or so. Looking at the lugs that retain it, it would appear to be a non-sliding panel and may be a different design. This would seem to be borne out by the handbook which says it is not moveable if a passenger airbag is fitted.

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2018 #46

    that's a shame. I do have a passenger airbag but does no affect the holders operation....as you say, maybe Peugeot have done something a bit different.

    however, I would have thought that, if the unit came up an inch or so, it might be designed to come up,all the way.

    if it weren't 'raiseable' I would have thought it wouldn't move at all?

    however, don't break anything....

    can you post a photo?

  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
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    edited December 2018 #47

    CY, this might help, or not....

    MMM thread

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  • young thomas
    young thomas Forum Participant Posts: 11,356
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    edited December 2018 #49

    yes, I agree the retaining Spring clip on oours was very strong, and I was definitely apprehensive about giving it a firm pull, but being brave (foolish) one day, I imitated DL and went for it....'twas all that was needed....

    however, it does seem (from my linked thread) that the Peugeot 'design' might be slightly different.

    having got it 'working' I haven't found a use for it, but holding a 'satnav' tablet looks favourite for those who have them.

    looking at the image below, I can't see any particular reason how this stand alone folding piece of plastic could interfere with any airbag.

    the only clue in the linked thread is that it's to do with vans that have double passenger seats/airbags in which case the tablet holder would interfere with the centre passenger airbag.

    do Peugeot vans 'with passenger airbags' actually come with two?

     

  • Tammygirl
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    edited December 2018 #50

    The Peugeot cab that we had looked as if it would come up as it had a clip but in fact on the model we had it didn't. Later models of the Bailey's did raise up.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2018 #51

    I'm 99.9% certain that it's not supposed to. I had to apply a couple of flat-bladed screwdrivers at the windscreen end to bow the panel to get even the 1" gap. Further application of leverage at the other end was fruitless. AS a feature it's pretty useless as if you used it as a clipboard, the reflection of any documents onto the windscreen would be a distraction and also degrade the dash cam image.

  • Popty 51
    Popty 51 Forum Participant Posts: 21
    edited December 2018 #52

    Hi all, I have managed to remove the panel that pops up for a map holder in the centre of the dash on my 2005 Ducato motorhome, now I know how it all comes apart it is easy.

    The 2 torx screws on top (windscreen side) are easy to remove, & then you have to remove the radio from the pod (special removal tools may be required to get the radio out), once the radio is removed, the metal radio cage has to be removed, then you can see the 2 other torx screws holding the pod under where the radio cage was, once these other screws are out, the pod then just lifts off.

    I have now removed this pod & managed to hide all the wiring for my dash cam & wireless reversing camera, with the pod replaced & radio refitted no wires on show & the flip up part with clip holds my 3.5" screen for the reversing camera, & it looks good with no unsightly wires trailing all over the dash.

    Hope this may help others