How the other half live
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It really doesn't matter what his 'MO' is, his post deserve to be treated with respect and not labelled prattling? That is all
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You are a master of swerve BB!
Have you (been "brave" enough to have) used either of the 2 sites I mentioned - Waterrow or The Old Oaks? If so, how would you say they compare with club sites? I wouldn't be using Concierge, because however "nice" the facilities, I reckon I could find sites in the same area for half the price. What's actually on a site isn't as important to me as you seem to think.
The majority of our breaks are now taken on CLs - no warden, no car park appearance, simple toilet and shower facilities - how "brave" is that!
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The site does look nice and would be great to stay in no doubt, would I get any more enjoyment than on a club site? I really (honestly) don't know, any site is a base and for me, it is the surrounding area and visits that make a good stay/holiday (yes - given the usual high standard of the club to start with, a layby or grass site with grubby facilities would ruin it from the start)
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Be fair, M, The Old Oaks - a superb site, btw - is virtually in BB's back yard.
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Line # 1 No ….they are using whats provided for everyone at no cost
Line # 2 No …..they are using whats provided for everyone at no cost
Your definition of Freeloaders is correct , someone who expects something for nowt , zero , zilch …….no payment . 👍
Now pitch blockers are a different story .😘
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Meanwhile, in the real world, this canny operator has a cottage booked, free dogs, free WiFi, en-suite bathroom, views to die for, in a gorgeous village up on NY Moors, and around half the price of a December campervan pitch at Concierge! And ‘cos we can take our Jeep, we won’t get snowed in anywhere!
I have an old rope for sale somewhere as well, goes to highest bidder!
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M, I have no reason to visit either site you mention...
my pals live in Wivelliscome (and sometimes Watchet) so I visit them by car....we go beyond there to Minehead from time to time but there is actually something there...
the Old Oaks site has tremendous reviews, wins stacks of awards year after year, but it's only 3 miles away so not in our radar at all.
i cycled up there one day for a look, I thought it was nice
i don't know how it's priced but it looked fine to me, but not for us to even consider.
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Not just the quality of the site that looks impressive, look at the website, service focussed, fast, informative, slick. If anyone from the club is reading this is how a modern forward thinking camping business presents their image to the world.
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indeed, all that is needed is for the club to double (even triple on some sites) its fees and the club can have a slick website too.
Also is having a slick website really that important, more than what actually happens on site?
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what costings have you come up with to justify the need for doubling or trebling site fees to produce a slick website...
perhaps a good website costs about the same as a bad one, it's the better design that makes the difference....
and, these days, isn't a website a company's window to its customers?
....current and prospective?
how will a new custome know 'what actually happens on site' without the company, via its communications/website, telling them?
isnt that advertising?.....which can be good or poor and might make a big difference these days.
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I often find websites a pain to find the details that I want. A problem that I don't have with a CC site's web page. The page is poor in info but as I know what to expect I am unlikely to be disappointed.
When I visit sites with swish toilet facilities I am often disappointed that many don't provide privacy cubicles which I prefer to be available.
Where sited provide for separate rooms with WC, shower and hand basin I do like it when I use them at 6.30am. By 8am however I often notice folk waiting their turn.
Looking at the Concierge site image The pitches seem over deep compared to width. Not something that I welcome as I prefer to site the car alongside the caravan as on most club sites. Not a great problem on this site though. I dislike the lack of sizeable trees but the site is young and there is some planting.
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I think that most people nowadays take websites with a very large pinch of salt. Many have reported on here actual views and descriptions on websites that do not match up to reality.
What's wrong with the club's website in your opinion then? And I'm not talking about CT here as most members do not use it.
The first page you get looks good, the tabs across the top work well, easy to use, you can easily tell where to go for what, the booking system is quick and easy to use (I think you yourself have said that?)
And if that wasn't enough the club's reputation is often enhanced by other magazine's constant referral to the high (caravan) club site standards. I counted three in my last trawl in PC and Caravan magazine.
But at the end of the day it's outfits on pitches that count and return customers and again... well you know the story there as well.
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For any Business in the retail sector including the Leisure industry, The quality of their Websites are of immense importance. Those are competitive markets and for younger more proactive people, are the way companies are chosen with which to do business.
A well presented easily navigable website with no glitches and faults in every part of the site, is what makes the difference and will play an even greater part in choice when aged long established customers no longer require those services,
K
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I suppose it just depends on why one chooses to go caravanning (motorhoming etc etc) and how one uses sites.
Slick websites might make a site look appealing but we've been disappointed several times in the past when the actuality of a site doesn't match what was promised.
We don't look for holiday camp style sites as we spend most of the time off site anyway.
We use a site as a base for exploring an area, nothing more. We don't need or use on site bars, restaurants and shops as we'd rather support local traders. We don't want or use swimming pools or fancy late night entertainment.
I just looked at what is provided on this site's new "emperor pitches" - the complete antithesis of a caravanning holiday as far as I'm concerned.
So "nice" as it may be, and I can see it appealing to some, we'd look for one of the many more economical alternatives if we visited the area.
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With the prices they seem to be charging for what is as some would say a car park (or the layout looks as if it is an military base)they have noted the rise in people splashing out on mobile gin palaces on land instead of in marinas, and decided they can afford what we charge
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Mousley, this is the key paragraph
I suppose it just depends on why one chooses to go caravanning (motorhoming etc etc) and how one uses sites
a lot of users of this forum seem to spend a lot of time in their Mh's/caravans, no problem with that, but i think we sometimes overlook the fact that others may only have 2 or 3 weeks per year away in their "mobile gin palaces" JVB66, so are prepared to pay high prices for that little bit of luxury and why not, I swim a lot and would be prepared to pay a premium for onsite pool, but not interested in evening entertainment etc, for us provided the shower/toilet facilities are adequate we are happy.
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Don’t be fooled by glossy websites. It’s the actual on the ground experience, ambience, staff and overall value for money that count. Up here we have a saying “ all froth but no knickers” , basically there’s no point in the pretty garment if the wearer is dying of cold.
Some websites are very slick, professional looking and catch the eye. The reality can be very different, hence all the disappointed children every Christmas when “Wonderland” turns out to be a patch of mud, a few evergreen trees lacking needles, three or four semi starved reindeer, and a very dodgy person decked out in a red suit, comic beard and a cushion down his trousers, dispensing oriental toys that have never seen a kite mark!
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You lot make me laugh sometimes!!
One of the reasons any of us bought our leisure mobile is to be able to do what we like when we like. We have stayed here and have also stayed at some equally well equipped and similar price venues, equally we have stayed at low cost venues and the reason why because we want too....
No amount of bickering on forums, no slick websites simply because we wanted too.
From a business perspective bloody good luck to them, look at their availability, there's an awful lot of people stay there, wonder why, Oh perhaps its because they want too.. Bet there a few lower cost sites that would love to have the occupancy rate that the likes of Concierge Camping have.
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+1👍 Yes you got to smile ......😇
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