Overnight campers' action
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Yes but you miss the point, Although i did not contact my local councilor to complain, clearly others did as quoted in my post, so others perceive MH's to be a problem, how many voiced concerns and to what degree of severity, I have no idea, and as stated the area in question is quite large and has many parking facilities, the complaints seem to refer to one specific area "Meon Shore" but i wouldnt mind betting that if you asked over say the 10 miles that the area covers you would get a similar opinion. Dont shoot the messenger, my intention was to alert MH owners as to what was happening in my area, and from what i have read the problem is perceived to be much greater in other areas e.g. Cornwall where a ban on motor home parking is in force except on recognised sites. If as a MH owner you think this type of policy is wrong then for sure you have a right to fight your corner. As suggested by i think peedee, maybe existing by laws should be more rigourlessly enforced so that Councils do not have to take drastic measures, but this all comes down to enforcement and finding the money to do the enforcing. May be concientious MH owners should gently tap offenders on the shoulder and point out the error of their ways, in the nicest possible way, of course
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Here are the details regarding MH parking in Cornish council car parks. Note the definition of a motorhome at the end, it's quite extensive.
As for your last comments Rufs, I've no intention of gently tapping any motorhome owners on the shoulder or otherwise.
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"…the problem is perceived to be much greater in other areas e.g. Cornwall where a ban on motor home parking is in force except on recognised sites."
Really? I must gently tap the cliff top wild campers on the shoulder and tell them that, Rufs. You seem to know something I don’t.
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I must have missed those posts.🤔
You stated with some apparent authority "…Cornwall where a ban on motor home parking is in force except on recognised sites". Not so, Rufs.
Brue has supplied a link to the situation regarding the car parks run by Cornwall Council but those car parks are only part of the picture.
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I am not surprised really that this has come about, a total ban on sleeping in MH/campers/etc..... in car parks. We stayed close to Marazion for 15 years or more, visiting sometimes half a dozen times a year. From April right through to September the sea front area round Mounts Bay was always subject to dozens of campers, MHs, converted horse boxes on a regular basis, and some of them never moved a wheel for three weeks or more. Primarily overseas visitors in early 2000’s, but steady increase in more UK plates. It was so bad in height of Summer no one else could park up at all, mini drinking sessions were going on between units, and it wasn’t uncommon to get a bit of verbal if you were trying to get off the beach to cross road between units. Eventually Council banned all parking, inserted a walkway and cycle path and moved parking either down towards Longrock or back into Marazion. You couldn’t see Mick’s Mount as you drove along, view blocked by all MHs. It was just folks camping on cheap, there are dozens of campsites at very cheap rates around there.
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well as trellis says, good post and we seem to have covered most of the bases, however, just back from walkling Rufs & would like to share the following.
1. Monks Head car park, very close to me, right on beach overlooking IOW, fully tarmaced, 50 or so pitches mostly level, toilet block open 9am - 4 pm this time of year, outside shower (working cold) outside tap (working cold) drains probably suitable for brown waste, no chemical disposal, disabled facilities but i think you need one of those special keys). Handy little snack bar providing some hot food, randomly opens, but open most days winter and summer.
2. no barriers, you can park for 7 days 1 oct - 31 mar, access a little bit challenging, single track road for perhaps 100 yards.
exceptions
Goods vehicles exceeding 1525kg, nothing re MH's and i guess there is a class differance on the registration documents i.e GV or LV
3. regulations, vehicle should not be used for sleeping or camping eating or cooking purposes
But what you will find infuriating is the fact that if you walk 20 yards up the path leading on to the promenade there is FOC on road parking, no signs with any restrictions, so unless there is something in the highways act or buried deeper in LC by laws i guess you could sleep etc in your MH on the promenade but not in the car park, as said before, we have 1 MH, well more camper van, that has been on the promenade for months
This does not seem to make sense as the car park is well away from local residents where parking on the road you would be in front of private apartments, today there was 1 camper van and 6 cars in the park.
so the bottom line for me would be that, yes lets allow MH parking/sleeping on a suck it and see basis, but not sure how easy that would be to implement, there are bound to be rules and regs, re liability insurance, policing etc
sorry guys 1st oct - 31 mar i would be on your side, later perhaps not so, a 6mtr MH probably ok 7.5 mtr might have some issues re keeping within marked bays which is also a stipulation.
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notwithstanding the Auto Trail thread, in general sales of MHs are rocketing.
folk go for one, or switch from caravanning for various reasons, but one of them must be the 'portrayed attraction' of having your 'home' with you and to pull up (within reason) anywhere a car can and ease back into your lounge and watch the world go by with a nice cuppa...
and then when it's bed time, it's there waiting for you...
many leading brand adverts (home and overseas) show folk at lakesides, seafronts, mountain locations all just kicking back in their leisure vehicle...
so, what's wrong with these owners looking for a bit of that lifestyle when they've paid a shedload (or two) for the magic carpet that makes it all possible?
of course, what the adverts don't suggest is that you either have to go across the channel to be able to immerse yourself in the stop where you like dream, or find yourself a campsite if in the UK.....where was that in the small print?
so, folk will look to park up where they legally can, and won't try to upset the locals deliberately but they're only living the dream they've just paid for, are they?
those who are more experienced realise that the UK isnt a welcoming place, on so many levels, when it comes to MH travel and so will generally just go with the flow and fit in with 'convention'...
....and when they can, they book the ferry and the weight of all those restrictions just sloughs away and they get on with enjoying spontaneous travel (and stopping) in the way MHs were designed for.
having said that, the seafront at L-on-S looks very nice and I'll be down that way in a couple of weeks.....
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BB
many leading brand adverts (home and overseas) show folk at lakesides, seafronts, mountain locations all just kicking back in their leisure vehicle...
so, what's wrong with these owners looking for a bit of that lifestyle when they've paid a shedload (or two) for the magic carpet that makes it all possible?
of course, what the adverts don't suggest is that you either have to go across the channel to be able to immerse yourself in the stop where you like dream, or find yourself a campsite if in the UK.....where was that in the small print?
I think in the UK it is something to do with lack of space /facilities
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We’re so lucky to benefit from all your experience BB, I can’t wait to throw off convention and the awful experiences of having to stay in UK.👍
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many leading brand adverts (home and overseas) show folk at lakesides, seafronts, mountain locations all just kicking back in their leisure vehicle...
so, what's wrong with these owners looking for a bit of that lifestyle when they've paid a shedload (or two) for the magic carpet that makes it all possible?
of course, what the adverts don't suggest is that you either have to go across the channel to be able to immerse yourself in the stop where you like dream, or find yourself a campsite if in the UK.....where was that in the small print?
Have you been reading glossy brochures again BB
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true, Rufs (BTW am I talking to a flaming dog?.
....) but the glossies make no mention of this, and nor will the salesmen...it's propbably on the same 'to (not) do' list as mentioning lack of payload.
they sell a lifestyle, and a vehicle (which is supposed) to support it, to many an unsuspecting purchaser.
we really love our MH, but if I only toured in the UK, I'd probably be using a caravan due to, amongst other things, the very points you make.
luckily, that isn't the case and we slip into MHing mode 'over there' for several months a year.
I don't wild camp much but we do use many stopping places as part of our touring, but it's not so easy here.
yet I don't see the problem with a MH parking legally overnight in the same way a car can....
presumably, as long as I don't sleep, I'm ok and as long as locals don't eat sandwiches and drink tea in their cars, they're OK, too?
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Ah, the convention of putting the van to bed over Winter....... tucked up nice and dry, waiting for the sunshine. And the sites to open in Europe, other than the ski ones!
I know you will be booking, (oops sorry, my mistake), reserving a flight, hotel, apartment, whatever, over Winter months. All good ways to enjoy oneselves!
We will be out enjoying snow, hopefully. Good luck, “booking” your ferry to freedom!2
joking, but i know what you mean
