It's official...we are crazy for campervans
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Why are you constantly making a fuss about a name, JV?
I could call you all sorts of names but it wouldn’t alter who/what you are.
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Nah, I don’t take pics of gravel HS pitches. Why would I? That would be so sad and rather like taking a pic of a scorched earth plot over there.
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As if🙄🙄🤔
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I’m sorry I got sucked into JV world, I bow to the poster of the 19th century(all hail, all hail)🤪🤪
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So what? 😝
You think what you like but you have no reason to doubt me, David, as I have never lied on this forum.
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You deserve it too JV, you should write a book, no scratch that, you should go on daytime TV, no scratch that. . . .You should carry on the way you are, or change would be good👍🏻😊
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Do you still take the charabanc to town JVB? I know the word motor caravan is an official term, just like myocardial infarction is another but most of us use the word motorhome in plain speak, or campervan for small vans etc, it trips off the tongue more easily don't you think...?
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The last 'really big' pitch I stayed on was at Tewkesbury Abbey on an Awning pitch, which I always book, so that i can get a hard standing.
The new 'mixed media' pitches at Tewkesbury are block paved and huge.....way over the top. My Campervan/motorhome/PVC/ (never heard the term 'flip over' before ? ) Was lost with all that space. Must have cost the club a fortune.....? And yet still a large proportion of pitches are on grass ???? Why. This site floods regularly, why not just make ALL pitches normal hardstanding gravel and leave the block paving for patios and driveways.
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As I suggested before when you posted that, Ray, try asking the club as it’ll likely be down to drainage.
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When we were there earlier this year,it was said by the site staff that the site because of the very hot weather the planting could not be carried out,and the reason that the multi purpose pitches with block paving were on the area less likely to flooding which would not get washed away if flooding happened as gravel would and the gravel pitches that have been installed are above the so far highest flood level,
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It will be interesting to see if the AGM gives any indication as to where the Club is going in the future. I just don't think the current system of one size fits all with its current pricing structure is the way forward. I noted today that Brit stops now has over 900 sites on offer and has sold out of its 2018 membership books and was running a waiting list for new orders! I think I am right in saying 5 years ago they didn't exist. Along with other organisation there is now much more on offer than there ever was which is giving new owners greater choice. I gained the impression from talking to one Club official today that Club membership recruitment and retention wasn't doing that great. If it really isn't, then it must at least be a source of concern. The Club cannot keep relying on the loyalty of its existing members for its income otherwise in the long term it will die. I await the AGM report with interest.
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If it really becomes necessary to make a different provision on sites for the users of the small "campervans" such as the Volkwagens mentioned above, this is one model of how it might be made to work to suit the needs suggested above.
Some existing awning pitches would be set aside and designated to hold three "campervans". Number the sub-pitches A, B and C so that there is minimal expenditure and it can be reverted to the use by full size units should the demand for sub-ptches be low.
Convince the fire service/local authority that as these units are small and contain less equipment that there is no increase in the total fire load over a full size unit with awning, car and six occupants. Therefore the three can be parked in close proximity provided the six meter rule is applied to seperate them from the next three. No awnings of course.
Use of these sub-pitches could be charged at a low nightly fee through a standard sort of parking meter so that persons can arrive whenever they like after high noon. If the site is full then the machine just does not issue a ticket/card. No card - no barrier opening, and hire of pitch ends at 10am. Another night sir? That will be buy another card and same spot unlikely.
That is all minimum investment stuff. Where it gets costly is differentiating the sub-pitch users from the full pitch (and fee) users. The sub-pitch card could perhaps give a single access to the toilet block while full pitch users get an unlimited access card, or the cards unlock the doors to the individual toilet and shower cubicles one or limitless times as appropriate. (This technology is frequently used on room doors in hotels).
Free use of exterior water taps and drains, and everyone pays for laundry as used.
Utopia, or crazy for camper vans?
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I noted today that Brit stops now has over 900 sites on offer and has sold out of its 2018 membership books and was running a waiting list for new orders! I think I am right in saying 5 years ago they didn't exist. Along with other
I doubt that CC will be able to compete on price
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well the easy part will be getting the fire services to agree
Actually when using car parks the daily fee is usually cheaper than the equivalent combined hourly rate, so make that £4 per hour?
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Cornersteadys proposal above bears a remarkable resemblance to the
"Quick Stops" scheme operated by many larger Danish Campsites. Effectively it exploits additional capacity inherent in sites and it is popular and probably (I don't actually know) brings added revenue in.
Of course the sites in Denmark are commercial sites whose raison d'être is to maximise revenue and profit.
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It's quite simple really. MH's are, for the most part, able to go three days without requiring anything except a place to park. No water, electricity, waste emptying - nothing. There are very few places in the UK where this is available. Even local councils with "scenic" car parks delight in refusing the overnight usage of a parking space for sleeping purposes. So we have buy a load of stuff that we don't actually need.
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I'd like to take the credit but I think it was Navigateur's
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no, still not simple, use a non club site then? The CCC has facilities stops? Use a cheaper CL?
My point still is, why is MichaelT using (higher priced) club sites when they do not give him what he needs?
But then if it is as you say the problem is all over the UK it is not just club sites as MichaelT was saying. A problem of you MoHo poor?
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Nav, an interesting post.
on another (similar) thread I posted text/photos of how many French sites make this type of model work.
as you suggest, the 'other' pitches are smaller, with less spacing.
in my example they were totally seperate but that needn't be the case, as you say. I originally suggested making use of existing 'hard' areas, like car parks (so as not to 'lose' any existing pitches) but it seems 3rd party parking is a priority.
however, again in your example also, the difference in price was reflected in the different pitch 'level' which also had no EHU.
on my French example, all visitors, on which ever pitch type could use the bar, showers, restaurant, pool, grounds....no need for any demarcation or special tickets other than when choosing the pitch.
customers didn't seem to be in any way upset that some others were paying less (but still getting a shower or a beer) as they realised these 'poorer' folk were getting a lot less, pitch wise, for their fee.
harmony reigned.
we currently have a two tier pricing system where folk pay more for a serviced pitch that sits above a std pitch....they get more for their money, no one cares.
i don't see any issue with having a pitch level below a std pitch, smaller, less space, no EHU, and perhaps a time limit, which has a lower price.
again, interesting post.
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just to add, we also have 'economy' pitches at £14, I believe?
the issue with these is, if you want one, you have to go where they are, which is probanly not where you had planned to go
now, if a few economy pitches were on every site......?
do we have sites that have sts and economy on the same site?
i guess folk don't have an issue with folk paying a lower fee when they are on a separate site, I wonder why they might if they were in the same site...
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of course, we can all 'go elsewhere'...how charming
however, the thread is about the sharp rise in small MHs and campervans which might belong to members who realised the simplicity of MH usage and the advantages of 'less servicing' as mentiond by CY.
the issue is that, with the demographic changing quickly, do we want more of these to 'go elsewhere'?
surely, the way forward is to really start to understand what these changes might mean and adjust any offering if required.
simply telling an increasing number of customers to bu**er off doesn't seem the right way forward.
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however, the thread is about the sharp rise in small MHs and campervans
The thread is, as far as I understand the OP, about an unknown (with regards to UK) increase in the sales of VW campers during 2017 over year 2016 unknown and possibly low sales. Lets try and keep in context shall we.
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