Troutbeck Head site to Keswick by foot

vbfg
vbfg Forum Participant Posts: 504
100 Comments
edited October 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I am thinking of visiting the Keswick site. I have never been there or to that particular area before.   Approximately how far is it to Keswick on foot and is it a relatively easy walking route as I have 2, not as agile as they once were, dogs?  Does the old railway line run near to the site?  I am aware that the A66 is closed at weekends at the moment but for future reference, are there any bus stops anywhere near the site?  I have tried looking on the internet but seem to come up with numerous sites that purport to give info but are simply sites that make money when you click on them but don't give any info.

«1

Comments

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited October 2018 #2

    Have visited Troutbeck Head a few times but never thought of walking to Keswick, it's a fair distance. There are no direct-ish paths on the OS map (red dashes) and the old railway is not shown as a right of way.

    TBH is the small blue caravan half way down the photo right hand side alongside the A 5091, Keswick is far left. The grid squares are kilometres.

    The large forest by the site has been largely cut down and there are many tracks that are good for walking. These are permissive forestry tracks, so not shown on the map.

    Hope this helps, the photo seems just about good enough quality if you zoom in. If you are going to the area I would recommend getting a 1:25000 OS map of the area, which will show the tracks in much greater detail than the 1:50,000 in the photo.

     

  • Whittakerr
    Whittakerr Club Member Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments Photogenic
    edited October 2018 #3

    A quick look on google maps, walking directions, states it’s approx. 10 miles an 3 ½ hour walk each way with a 700 foot climb on the way.

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited October 2018 #4

    Google shows an hourly bus service to Keswick. Stop at the junction of A5091 and A66.

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited October 2018 #5

    Personally I would not want to walk alongside the A66.

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #6

    When I stayed at Keswick, I was at a site at Castlerigg. Going to Keswick wouldn't be too bad but walking back would be an extremely good workout. Troutbeck Head by foot would take all day if done in both directions.

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #7

    Here's some info about the railway track walk. People do tackle some long walks in the area, the 10 mile walk around Derwentwater is popular. The start for the Keswick track walk is at Threkeld. Looks as though some of it is under repair so follow further links. Maybe a bit hardgoing for older dogs but well within a fit human's capabilities (not mine I'm afraid.) Locally I've seen many take the bus out to places from Keswick etc and then do the return walk on foot so there are various possibilities.

    Miles without stiles LINK

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #8

    Personally, with a motorhome we prefer being with the other club in Keswick which has two well placed sites in the town close to Derwentwater. Keswick has excellent facilities including a very good bus service in several directions (you can take the dogs) and a big choice of walks, short or long, plus access by boat on the lake. When we stay there, we rarely move the motorhome as there is plenty to do locally.

    Here's a view of Buttermere, earlier this year, on the bus route and a good pub nearby.

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #9

    There is/was a car park that was motor caravan "friendly" at the Pencil Museum(factory)

  • dunelm
    dunelm Forum Participant Posts: 373
    edited October 2018 #10

    vbfg

    You obviously haven't looked at a map or understood from The Sites Book where Troutbeck Head site is. You describe it as "the Keswick site". Are you getting confused with the club site at Borrowdale which is described in the book as 3.5 miles from Keswick? That site doesn't have a loo/shower block but is on a bus route to Keswick and it is a pleasant walk to Keswick or to Grange in the other direction or alongside the lake.

    You have had 3 other good suggestions for sites in and close to Keswick.

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,431 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited October 2018 #11

    For anyone interested there was once a station at Troutbeck near the Troutbeck Inn, the station closed in 1972, it was on the Cockermouth, Keswick & Penrith Railway. Waimwright mentioned seeing the last train service in one of his books. The current A66 would have been to the right of these pictures.

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #12

    Last week on channel 5 they showed that .on the program "walking Britain's  lost railways " 

    worth a watch on catch up 

  • vbfg
    vbfg Forum Participant Posts: 504
    100 Comments
    edited October 2018 #13

    I have a motorhome and don't like to move from my pitch once I have reached a site either. I was with the other site for 12 months but left as many of their more popular sites (and Keswick was one of them) have a minimum of 2 or 3 nights stay which I was not aware of prior to joining.  Due to work commitments I can't usually stay Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday nights and Friday, Saturday and Sunday were very often fully booked well beforehand, especially at Keswick so it does restrict my choice a lot.  I have decided to book for 2 nights at the Borrowdale site and maybe try one night at the Troutbeck  site if the weather looks ok for Sunday and Monday but thank you for your input - the boat trip sounds lovely if the weather holds.

  • vbfg
    vbfg Forum Participant Posts: 504
    100 Comments
    edited October 2018 #14

    You are correct, I was getting it mixed up with the Borrowdale site (where I have now booked).  I read numerous reviews about many different sites and remembered someone mentioning the walk into Keswick and thought that it was from the Troutbeck site reviews page. I must pay more attention next time I am booking a site!

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,431 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited October 2018 #15

    Thanks yes, I have got them all recorded and will get round to them at some point

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,431 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited October 2018 #16

    you could also get the boat back most of the way, google Keswick Launches for timetable. 

  • dunelm
    dunelm Forum Participant Posts: 373
    edited October 2018 #17

    I'm glad to have helped but I don't know why you didn't look in the Sites book. It would have saved you from being confused and asking the unnecessary questions in your post.

    (I never can understand why people don't use the information they already have or which is readily available but choose to ask other people on forums for their ideas or for the information.)

     

    I hope that you enjoy the Borrowdale/Keswick area and that the weather is kind. (There is likely to be some tourist information at the site and there is a good TIC in the middle of Keswick.)

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #18

    Weather in the lakes kind? I was in Keswick in July 76. Chucked it down every day.

  • dunelm
    dunelm Forum Participant Posts: 373
    edited October 2018 #19

    So? That was so long ago as to be irrelevant.

    We've been many times and often had very good weather.

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited October 2018 #20

    I think it was meant as a humorous aside. However, there is no denying the Lakes have there share of the wet stuff. Keswick averages taken over the period 1981-2010. 176 days a year with rainfall and 1.52 metres a year of rainfall.

  • Cornersteady
    Cornersteady Club Member Posts: 14,431 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited October 2018 #21

    that's dry compared to Seathwaite a few miles awaysmile

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #22

    That how there are so many lakessurprised

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,311 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited October 2018 #23

    Indeed, relatively its not bad for the lakes. Ambleside is wet half the year and has over 2 metres.☹️

  • Wherenext
    Wherenext Club Member Posts: 10,607 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited October 2018 #24

    The last I heard, that pencil factory owned by Derwent, was severly damaged by the floods in 2016 and has since been bought by the Religious conglomerate that has a huge festival in Kexwick in Summer so that they can have somewhere to have a permanent exhibition site. I stand to be corrected.

  • Dave Nicholson
    Dave Nicholson Forum Participant Posts: 408
    edited October 2018 #25

    If you like walking with your dogs it was a good move to book Borrowdale instead of Troutbeck Head where the opportunities for walking are limited.

    I’d recommend a walk from the Borrowdale site through Manesty Woods and along the lake shore to Keswick. You could get the bus or the ferry back with your dogs if necessary. The cafe at Nichol End Marine is particularly good for a mid morning coffee and the home made scones are amazing. Saturday is market day in Keswick.

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #26

    You can take the dogs to Lingholm on Derwentwater, reached by ferry and foot, there is a lovely café there and an interesting garden connected with Beatrix Potter, the Potter family used the house as a holiday home.

    Have a lovely time, we enjoyed a nice stay at the Borrowdale site, perfect for walking and an attractive little village at Grange close by.

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #27

    The pencil museum is up and running as usual now, nice museum and café and some very good offers on art supplies in the shop. smile

  • Wherenext
    Wherenext Club Member Posts: 10,607 ✭✭✭
    5,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited October 2018 #28

    Thanks Brue.

    We were in Keswick a couple of hears ago, the year after the winter flooding, and popped into the shop in the town centre. The assistant was the one who told us that the museum site had been sold as it would cost too much to repair and to whom it had been sold. So my apologies for misinformation. Is it the exact same location?

    However, wherever it is by I'm really pleased as Mrs WN adores pencils so she'll be pleased she can continue to go there.smile

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #29

    I think the buildings that have been sold are probably the original factory,which are/were on the same site as the museum,as the modern factory is out of town now

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited October 2018 #30

    The factory relocated to more modern premises in Workington a few years ago but the museum has been fully refurbished and is worth a visit. You enter through a mock graphite mine, I found it very interesting, probably more for adults than children but the shop has lots of lovely art equipment for all ages.

    Derwent pencils LINK

  • Fozzie
    Fozzie Club Member Posts: 550
    500 Comments
    edited October 2018 #31

    Couple of tips for the Borrowdale site.Just follow the details given in the handbook as other roads are narrow and hilly.When we visited a few years ago,whilst the site is wooded there are some open glades so it is best to look at where you want to be sited first.

    Do the Borrowdale walk. The start of the walk is by the Hollows farm campsite back towards Grange then you will discover the River Derwent this is at the base of Castle Crag.

    Also the small Lakeland ferry and buses do stop running early evening meaning we ended up having to taxi back from Keswick to the Mary Mount hotel one night.

    I my admit I absolutely loved this site, and we had glorious weather