Noise Nuisance From Gas Gun Bird Scarers

LincolnDelta3
LincolnDelta3 Forum Participant Posts: 1
edited May 2013 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Our our recent return from a three trip around Europe we stopped off at the New Century New Forest site. Excellent though this site is, the peace was ruined by frequent explosions from a gas gun bird scarer in a nearby field, firing throughout the hours
of daylight. I wrote to the Club & suggested they should protest to the New Forest Park Authourity but although I received an acknowledgement from the Club of my communication, diappointingly I never received a reply. After five days we moved on again to the
CCC site at Polstead. The first sound we heard was a gas gun bird scarer from nearby fields, again throughout the hours of daylight. The natural peace & tranqulity of our British countryside is rapidly being ruinedby these devices which are spreading like
wildfire. The Club must do more to defend it sites from these noiise nuisances and get their use banned from places close to where people live or reside. We will not be visiting either site again. 

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  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #2

    You certainly do have problems with "noise?on sites you visit not that either club can do anything about  bird scarers on farmland in spring when crops are most vunerable from flocks  of birds, and then of course there is the "constant?" barking from dogs,on two other sites which in the years we have been members have not noted before,

     

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #3

    It might have stopped after 5 years, JV. winklaughinglaughing

    That was a cracking OP, wasn’t it?surprised

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2018 #4

    It had stopped. I was on Polstead 2 weeks ago smile

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #5

    That’s good to hear, Easy, but sadly the OP has had noise problems at Sutton as well.😕

  • Navigateur
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    edited August 2018 #6

    Just ignore the guns.   Country people do - and so do many of the birds!

  • Rob2CathDavies
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    edited August 2018 #7

    The National Farmers Union have a Code of Practice regarding the use of bird scarers which details times of use, particularly on Sundays, and distances from human habitation etc.  If you are on a site where this is a nuisance it is worth asking the site warden if they have checked if the local farmer is sticking to the Code of Practice.

     

     

  • mickysf
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    edited August 2018 #8

    The thing is with these bird scarers is that they are only required during certain phases of a crop and then only with specific crops like legumes. They may only be effective and used for a couple of weeks each growing season. Furthermore, with crop rotation this also means that specific fields which need this protection one year may not be revisited by the technology for several years.

    I'm at a loss really to see how the club can become involved in medelling with the needs of local farmers and the legitimate and practical actions of our food producers.

    This year, as a visitor to the countryside, you may be disturbed for a short period but it may be many years before that disturbance is experienced again. Having said that, as I've lived all my life in the country I may have just come to accept this country practice.

    They have been used for years and I don't think they are more prolific today, may be the best thing to do is avoid holidaying during those few weeks when they are most likely to be employed.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2018 #9

     JVB

    Interested to know how you have managed to resurrect a five year old post?

  • mickysf
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    edited August 2018 #10

    I'm ashamed of myself, I should have noticed the resurrection. Why do folk do this? For perverse fun? I thought I was helping the understanding rather than fuelling the discord, silly, stupid me!embarassed

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #11

    I’m not sure JV is the culpritundecided. The OP wrote a review of another site this afternoon and I suspect probably looked up this old thread. Maybe that action brought it back to life.

    All 3 postings/reviews by the OP have concerned noise on site, that is sooo unlucky.😕

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #12

     Our our recent return from a three trip around Europe we stopped off at the New Century New Forest site

    Wonder why the OP picked on  a club site in his original post after all I've heard bird scarer's over there as well! 

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2018 #13

    Interesting thought TW this forum never fails to surprise!!! I have highlighted it to Rowena to see if IT can check it out.

    David

  • Rob2CathDavies
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    edited August 2018 #14

    Whether an old thread or not, this noise does make some sites difficult for dog owners (or humans with a dicky ticker!).

     

    When we were Site wardens, a simple request for the farmer to point the gas gun away from the site, instead of towards it, made a big difference and caused no animosity with the farmer.

     

    As I said, the NFU code of conduct is available online to check, and the local council can help too.

     

     

  • brue
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    edited August 2018 #15

    The problem is there is always some type of noise in the countryside, that's the reality. There are country areas affected by army ranges, flight practices etc. Late night combining will be happening now. Bird scarers are very noisy, so are low flying jets. It's good if you can reduce a noise by some means but this can't always happen. There is tranquillity in our countryside but it's not always tranquil and never has been.

  • Kennine
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    edited August 2018 #16

    This is an "old thread" but nevertheless still relevant.  Bird Scarers are used on Airfields to keep aircraft safe and are required by farmers to protect their crops ( Their Livelihood). We who live in the countryside accept this and get used to the sound easily.  If some campers cannot accept this protection and find the noise disturbing, the easy answer is to use urban campsites. laughing

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #17

    It’s clear from site reviews that people often have unrealistic expectations. We only have to read the complaints about crows, cockerels, cows etc etc to see that they have a vision of a rural idyll which is far from reality. 

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2018 #18

    Yes, agreed - folk just need to think a bit more about their location. I remember the complaint about cows mooing at Shawsmead ,  I think, the church bells at Cheddar and the rooks at Chatsworth.All part of the attraction of visiting new areas I'd have thought. smile

  • Metheven
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    edited August 2018 #19

    This year we stopped at a campsite 'overthere' just south of Toulouse, I think the bird cannon in the adjacent field threw a wobbly. It went off at 2 minute intervals, throughout the night and still going strong come morning yell, only stayed one night and moved to another site just north of Toulouse. Peace at last plus a cycleway straight from site laughing

    They are a fact of life in the countryside but when things go wrong it's damn annoying if left unchecked.

  • lornalou1
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    edited August 2018 #20

    countryside, try living on the coast when seagulls start dancing on your roof at 3:30 every morning. where can i buy one of these gas guns, or shotgun come to that.wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #21

    Don’t feed the blighters. That’s the answer. Then they take their hobnailed boots elsewhere👍🏻

  • KenofKent
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    edited August 2018 #22

      Never mind the noise, what about the smellsmilesmile

    Ken

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #23

    But its great fun on any site where you have "unfriendly "neighbour, to Chuck some bread on the roof of their LV at night or nights if it persists to give them an early morning wake upsurprisedcoolwink 

  • Extugger
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    edited August 2018 #24

    As I was walking by the sea

    A seagull sent it's love to me

    As I wiped it from my eye 

    I thanked the Lord that cows don't fly

    😉 Cleaning the caravan roof is tough enough but I wonder if the OP has had a "crow deposit" upset him - or maybe it was the church bells?? The peace & tranquility of the British countryside 😲😉😀

     

  • lornalou1
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    edited August 2018 #25

     never fed a seagull, they are vermin. trouble is they breed at the same place year after year. I netted my roof between chimney and ridge, that confused them so they nested next door. b u g g e r s. cry

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2018 #26

    " never fed a seagull......"

     

    Best avoided on here too! wink

  • Oneputt
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    edited August 2018 #27

    Noise, you don't know what noise is until you have an Osprey transition from plane to helicopter as it comes in to land.  Monday, this went onto right through to 1130pm!

     

  • brue
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    edited August 2018 #28

    That's enough to make your teeth rattle Oneputt. laughing