Screw Pegs

eyebrowsb
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edited August 2018 in Parts & Accessories #1

I have tried using the common screw pegs on hard standing with little success. They just seem to spin like crazy but not grip and screw in.

I have this type bought from Aldi a while back so not a major outlay, but a total waste of money in my view.

 

But maybe my insertion technique is wrong. I'm using a cordless drill and even at low speed they don't grip and screw in. So I ended up banging them in.

Has anyone managed to get them to screw in on hardstandings?

I have seen other types such a Peggy Pegs which look a bit better, but very expensive. £18.22 for 2. Although you can get smaller ones for £14.22 for 4 but you need to hammer them in. Kind of defeats the object.

Peggy Peg also do a plastic fibre glass version but I suspect they would disintegrate in a typical hardstanding pitch.

Anyone found any pegs that screw in with minimum effort and hold? Or can someone explain how they manage with the common screw pegs?

Does anyone use an impact driver to screw in pegs? Does that help get them in.

Thanks

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  • Phishing
    Phishing Forum Participant Posts: 597
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    edited August 2018 #2

    Buy these:

    https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Screws+%26+Fixings/d90/Coach+%26+Roof+Bolts/sd1670/Coach+Screw/p78511

    Get some M10 washers as well, put a washer on the bolt.

    Use a 1Lb hammer to drive them in.

    Unscrew them out.

    Never been stopped yet, even by the hardest of hardstandings.

    Most pegs are hammered in, the advantage with the bolts above is that they don't bend and last forever, even when you get a bit enthusiastic with the hammer.

     

     

  • eyebrowsb
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    edited August 2018 #3

    It's the hammer part I am trying to change.  Up to now I have been using regular rock pegs, but thought I would try the screw pegs.  Thinking let the drill take the strain.  Didn't work, as I ended hammering them in with the lump hammer.  So now I'm just wondering if it was me and my insertion technique or they are rubbish.

  • richardandros
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    edited August 2018 #4

    I, too, would be very interested in replies to this thread since I have been searching the internet for something suitable.  I find bashing pegs into a hardstanding exhausting and I usually end up with an aching wrist and bashed fingers!

    I discounted the Aldi ones because reviews suggest that the plastic bit is fixed to the peg and therefore spins round when being put in with a drill - as do quite a lot of others it would seem.

    I have found these:here but I'm not sure whether these have fixed heads or not.

     

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2018 #5

    I no loner use an awning but have in the past. I started with a lump hammer and found that it was hard on the wrist and so changed to using a steel shafted claw hammer. Far easier. As we all know the impact force is a product of weight and the speed squared. Holding a hammer properly at the end so that the head accelerates faster than the wrist due to the arc of the head makes driving pegs far easier on the wrist than using a short handled lump hammer. Of course a claw hammer is best IMO as it is easy to pull out the peg by simply hooking the claw under the peg head and standing on the hammer head to leaver the peg out. No strain. 

  • richardandros
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    edited August 2018 #6

    Totally agree ET - I use a claw hammer - but it's still bloomin' hard work.  An age thing I suspect!  The prospect of being able to screw the pegs in is very attractive, but it's just a question of finding the right ones. The OP mentions using an impact driver - I suspect that won't work because it will tend to vibrate the pegs as they go in and make them loose.

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #7

    I have always had the standard steel pegs ,and use a soft faced club hammer that has a shock absorbing handle (about 30yrs old)I think they are still made, and a  twist of the peg is usually sufficient to enable easy withdrawal when packing up to go

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2018 #8

    Richardandros - what's this with using rubber headed mallets? Is it for noise abatement? I've had to smile at folk using them to drive steel pegs into hard stands on various sites.laughing

     

     

  • heddlo
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    edited August 2018 #9

    Nothing positive to add about Screw pegs unfortunately.  We have tried two types a few times now and find them useless.  Like you we thought it would be easier on the wrists but have reverted to the normal rock pegs. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2018 #10

    LR, I don’t think there is a ‘one way’ cure all answer just a way each person uses. I use the screw in types of pegs with a cordless drill. I start each peg off by knocking it in an inch or so with a lump hammer(see below) to break the surface & to ensure the peg can’t fall over as its being drilled down. It works for me is the only recommendation I can give it. Good luck👍🏻😊

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2018 #11

    I have seen them successfully used but only as R2B suggests - by starting off with a hammer first.

  • eyebrowsb
    eyebrowsb Forum Participant Posts: 554
    edited August 2018 #12

    Okay I dust off my Aldi pegs and try the starter method suggested by R2B above, next time we are out.  Has anyone tried using an SDS drill set to hammer?  That might imitate the lump hammer action.  Drive in and unscrew out?

    I spotted these twist type roofing nails, but they don't have any means to extract them.  These are designed to be hammered in with a regular hammer or SDS.  They just need a hex nut on top to unscrew and they look like they would work a treat.  

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2018 #13

    LR, if my SDS drill is anything to go by it’s a big heavy piece of kit to lug around☹️. 

  • eyebrowsb
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    edited August 2018 #14

    I guess that's the downside, but 15 mins lugging the SDS doesn't sound too bad if it knocks in 40 odd pegs.  Have you tried it R2B?  I suppose you would need a bit like the one above.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2018 #15

    No LR. It’s just too much of a big lump of kit to carry around. I use a Makita cordless that is very light to both hold & transport. Lump hammer & drill with bit covers it fine👍🏻😊. Try it, if it’s not for you then try the other options👍🏻

  • Navigateur
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    edited August 2018 #16

    I don't have to worry about pegs as I never bother with an awning these days, but an elderly arrival on an adjacent pitch was having the troubles described above with screw-in pegs so I lent him the hammer action socket driver I use for moving the corner steadies and changing wheels.  Went in a treat.  They might still be there as we left before he did!

  • eyebrowsb
    eyebrowsb Forum Participant Posts: 554
    edited August 2018 #17

    Sounds like an Impact driver may be the answer. More umph than a regular hammer drill.  Anyone tried that option?Something like THIS.

     

  • brightstar2
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    edited August 2018 #18

    I dig a hole around each peg and pour postcrete in !!!!!!!!!

    Or better still get a grass pitch.

  • richardandros
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    edited August 2018 #19

    R2B - but you don't say which pegs you use - could you enlighten me please.  A lot of the ones I have been looking at seem to have the plastic heads fixed to the peg so that the head spins round when being driven in.  That is going to cause problems either with fingers getting in the way, or more likely, getting tangled up with the rubber 'ladders' on the awning skirt. Do you, or anyone else, have experience of pegs where the plastic head doesn't spin round? Thanks.

    We tend to shy away from hardstanding pitches simply because of the hassle of putting the awning up, but on CC sites there usually isn't an alternative.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited August 2018 #20

    R&R, that’s because I use 120mm M8 coach screw(see pic) I had some left over from a Tree removal & fencing job, I realised they were ideal & cheap but very strong & reliable. They have a fixed washer near the head, I put another washer on & slot the guy line atwixt the 2. Jobs-a-good-un👍🏻😊

  • Kennine
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    edited August 2018 #21

    I always prefer using long Rock Pegs driven in by a 2lb hammer.  Never had them move even in the highest of gales. Quick to use and no need to take an electric drill.  

    smile

  • Whittakerr
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    edited August 2018 #22

    I’ve tried screw pegs in the past, both proprietary pegs and the log coach screw & washer type with little success. I’ve still got a few in the bag bit I prefer the rock pegs I get from Go Outdoors, knocked in with a lump hammer, pulled out with a claw hammer.

  • IanBHawkes
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    edited August 2018 #23

    I use Peggy Pegs with my drill and they work fine, except they can be a bit fiddly. I looked at getting some of their stronger pegs for hardstanding, but they are expensive. So have put off getting them. I have only seriously damaged 2 pegs in the last 6 years of using them.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited August 2018 #24

    In Southern Europe where the ground is often like concrete I always copied everybody else and used the pegs that look like large nails. Don’t know what the are called but they are fairly inexpensive and you drive them in with a wooden mallet or claw hammer. You don’t need a screw thread on them to grip. I still use them down south for the motorhome canopy, in fact some were provided with the Omnistor.

  • DSB
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    edited February 2019 #25

    I went through a stage of using screw pegs but went back to traditional hammer-in rock peg's.  I gave the screw in pegs up as I had difficulty in getting them out - they got tangled with the ladder pegging points and twirled the ladders around.  I'm now wondering whether the problem was the pegs?  I used plastic pegs before and they were quite chunky.  Im wondering whether to give screw-ins another go, especially as, after two knee replacements, I have difficulty in kneeling?  Any thoughts?

    David

  • derekcyril
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    edited February 2019 #26

    After going through all type of pegs ,toolstation brilliant cheap way .It seems hardstanding nowadays are using bigger stone for drainage ,which make screw in wander all over the place .Gone back to rock pegs and trusty lump hammer .On grass screw in great .David .just an idea length of steel to suite youre height one end fashioned for end of peg . trusty hammer.? Derek

  • davetommo
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    edited February 2019 #27

    Do the washers not rub through the pegging elastic and guy ropes

  • jennyc
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    edited February 2019 #28

    We use Kampa style steel screw pegs in all situations, starting them off with a small lump hammer. For the lesser job of holding our carpet/ skirts down, my husband bought a box of long, hex headed screws and added round plastic washers intended for sealing roof panels, I believe. People posting that it’s easy to pull pegs out with a claw hammer have never visited any of the many sites where we’ve had great difficulty removing pegs, even with the aid of a modified crate opener and wooden block fulcrum.

    If screwing pegs in, makes the job easier, then removing them with a battery drill can turn a very physical job, into a delightfully painless one.

    One poster has suggested a drill driver, which I can see would help a lot, but their hammer action makes them a bit noisy for tranquil sites.

  • hywelsycharth
    hywelsycharth Forum Participant Posts: 37
    edited August 2019 #29

    I bought some screw pegs years ago and have never had any success with a cordless drill. However I bought an impact driver recently and decided to give the pegs another go. They went in with no problem at all. The secret seems tobe to drive them in vertically and not at an angle as this causes them to skid horizintally.rather than dig in.

  • Putt Family
    Putt Family Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited September 2019 #30

    Those Aldi pegs are poor the black part spins with the drill.

    Used Screwfix items listed below, also knocked off the black plastic part from the Aldi pegs and used them with the washers below all works like a treat.

    TurboCoach
    TURBOCOACH COACH SCREWS YELLOW ZINC-PLATED 10 X 160MM 50 PACK (27508)

    And 


    EASYFIX LARGE FLAT WASHERS M10 X 2.5MM 10 PACK (14327)

  • Parky1987
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    edited September 2019 #31

    I use the Aldi drill pegs, they look identical to your first picture. I did however separate the plastic from the bolt itself (the plastic is moulded around the bolt which has been crimped for the plastic to mould against) and ran a 9mm drill through the plastic so the bolt can spin freely. Then, with the 13mm socket that came with the pegs which fit my impact driver, start driving from the surface. No hammering, just drill work. I have 30 pegs and can get them in, adjusted and out with a single charge of my 1.5ahr dewalt battery.