Seacroft, Cromer

Wayne and Judie Seaborn
Wayne and Judie Seaborn Forum Participant Posts: 181
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edited August 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Can anyone, even the C & MC explain why this site with a huge entrance area has a a 1pm entrance time. Tried finding out without any real response, hence asking members.

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  • mickysf
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    edited July 2018 #2

    Tried? Why not just ask those that know and be done! undecided

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2018 #3

    You're not keeping up W&J. I think it was milliehull who answered that question on an earlier thread but as for which one, your guess is as good as mine!

    PS - I believe she found out by asking the wardens - worth a try!

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2018 #4

    some sites do have 1pm and some don't and it's not always to do access. I suspect as the departure time is still 12 and arrival is 1pm it is more to do with operational reasons, large complex site or whatever.

    As above ask the right people, members usually just use sites and not run them

    Are you there now or going soon W&J?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2018 #5

    The change puzzled me as well. I suspect it was a problem with units arriving at the same time as units leaving and whilst the entrance is wide enough for a two way flow its possible that there have been problems trying to exit and arrive at the same time as the road in front of the site is not particularly wide and in peak season the road is likely to be very busy?

    David

    PS I am sure if Millie sees this she will remind us what the warden said.

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2018 #6

    Well, if that's the case, then they are at least trying to manage the issue. And so they should if it's a problem in my opinion!

  • brue
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    edited July 2018 #7

    Here's the thread you where you asked the same question David. smile

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  • onepjg
    onepjg Forum Participant Posts: 282
    edited July 2018 #8

    We are currently staying at Incleboro Fields, just up the road.

    Passed Seacroft on Monday at 1.20pm.

    About six vans queuing to check in, with the last van queuing on the road and traffic trying to pass.....still it’s probably best to have an earliest check in time because it makes everything run smoothly !!!! 

    Driving past the queue I just had to smile, made me think of all the threads on here.

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2018 #9

    Stands to reason. Move earliest arrival back 1 hour to 1pm and it gives more people a chance of being early enough to join the queue!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited July 2018 #10

    Just scrap the arrival times of 12 or 1 etc and you won't have everyone turn up at the same time ..... innocent

    The CC we were on last week had an arrival time of 1 but it also had an official departure time of 11 ..... a small site with its entrance spitting distance from the main road it's off

  • brue
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    edited July 2018 #11

    It intrigues me how a site like Edinburgh, which is very busy on site and in the late arrivals area can operate a 9am arrival. I presume it's staffing levels, slightly earlier departures and new arrivals taking less choice of what  is available? So it can be done but might require more staff?

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2018 #12

    And of course, extra costs which impinge detrimentally on prices in my experience of raising levels of the work force. Those price increases of course are maybe more of an issue to many than arrival times.

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2018 #13

    Although Edinburgh is under £30 (just) for two at peak. Several sites, with standard arrival times are significantly more. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2018 #14

    that always got me as well. I stayed there for 10 days last Easter and from what I noticed arrivals were very few in the early morning up to 11 when we used to go out. However once the BH weekend was over there was always a good number of pitches available.

  • mickysf
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    edited July 2018 #15

    That may be so but some I would suggest see the issues with very limited overviews and personal perspectives and requirements in my opinion. Determining price ranges in any busines is subject to far more complex constraints than some appreciate. Rotas, hourly contracts,  work time agreement, employment legislation and working practises etc. impact too on outcomes as does not the satisfaction, expectations and enjoyment of the 'customers' themselves. Pleasing all, all of the time must be a very difficult conundrum, it certainly was in my past life. To a few I probably failed miserably in their opinion but to the many I hope I 'helped' in a positive way.

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2018 #16

    The fairly quiet road past the site also helps as there is plenty of space for units to queue if necessary.   And limited choice of pitches is unlikely to deter anyone as there is little to choose between them anyway IMO.

    I wonder if they do get many arriving just after 9am?  Having to travel in the Edinburgh morning rush traffic is enough to deter most people!

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2018 #17

    When we were last there we arrived at 11am.

  • redface
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    edited July 2018 #18

    Irrespective of possible fixed arrival/departure times, I feel that local variations are largely due to staffing numbers, jobs to be done AND their own lunch times.

    Long may it be so.

     

  • youngalan
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    edited July 2018 #19

    Before the CAMC took over the Edinburgh site a few years ago it was ran by the City. I would suggest that as a  condition of the lease taken over by the CAMC they had to admit units from 9 a.m. Surely someone from HQ can explain the reason for this !

  • KjellNN
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    edited July 2018 #20

    It is more than a few years since the Club took it over, the first time we stayed there was 2008 and it had been a Club site for a few years by then.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2018 #21

    very ornate and decorative metal gates it has

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2018 #22

    It does indeed! But I don't think it affects the arrival timewink

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2018 #23

    yes good point lol.

    But I wonder why this site has them? And I've haven't seen any other sites that have gates as well designed and made. I wonder what the history is?

  • Hendy
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    edited August 2018 #24

    We have just come back from Seacroft and had a great time there but knowing that we are supposed to arrive for 1pm we did just that - following the rules - to be told by the wardens they had an extremely busy morning with lots of arrivals mid-morning, hence when we got there we had only 2 pitches to choose from!  Seems daft to me to have an arrival time of 1pm only to let everyone in when they actually do arrive - so that leaves those of us who try to conform being left with the least choice!  I understand that if people arrive early they can`t leave big queue stretching out into the road so I don`t really know what the answer is but if you book a static caravan, house or apartment you cannot arrive before a certain time!  It does make you feel however that if everyone else is arriving earlier than they should, the rules are clearly not being adhered to. I would say that we arrived half an hour early at one site we visited belonging to another club and were told we would not be allowed on site until the correct time so we sat and waited until we could get in!

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited August 2018 #25

    The other club do it better by not allowing members in till 1300 hrs full stop, if you are going to let members on site prior to the allotted time you might as well scrap the rule and have a free for all, if you are going to have a rule for the benefit of members, then it should apply to all members.

  • brue
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    edited August 2018 #26

    You know where you are with the C&CC. There is no panic, pitch types have been booked, arrivals are relatively stress free. Not so with the club unfortunately.

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2018 #27

    I don't 'panic' on arrival at any site Brue. laughing

     

  • brue
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    edited August 2018 #28

    No but some obviously do, judging by their driving speeds etc.wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited August 2018 #29

    I’ve found arrivals at C&CC sites have become more of a pain since they introduced the 1300 arrival rule. Several times we’ve encountered queues and a very, very busy office. It’s as if all those who would have formerly arrived at 1200-1300, plus those who would normally arrive at 1300, have been merged into one tidal wave of arrivals and it can be frantic. 

  • young thomas
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    edited August 2018 #30

    then let's hope they don't make it 2:00wink

    conversely, making it earlier (as in the Edinburgh site) might relieve the pressure and result in a gentle trickle feed, filling the spaces as the empty throughout the morning.....

    does any one know if there is ever a long queue putside this site?

    it certainly works on other busy sites I've used.....not here admittedly, but the process is the same...Folk leave, folk arrive and are let in, all is calm....

    put your foot on the 'arrival' hosepipe and you immediately get a build up.....

    most folk want to start their holiday as early as they can, others arrive when they arrive (whatever time that is)....and to keep folk outside when there are free pitches is just beurocratic...and causes the congestion....

    we abide by the current 'rules' (for both clubs) but this doesn't mean one can't have an opinion on the situation described in the OP...

  • JVB66
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    edited August 2018 #31

    Some one couple sites and even those with two couples are surely entitled to a lunch break?and as most site facilities are cleaned am up to twelve noon a 1300 arrival is quite reasonable, on bigger sites with more staff then an earlier arrival is also reasonable,and at Seacroft there could only be one couple on several days as site staff are it may come as a surprise to some are covered by the WTD, and as is the case with a large proportion of the membership,1200 or 1300 is a target to arrive by,so a queue is always inevitable,then there is the rush by drivers and others in the race to get to the office although there are several in front ,so it ends up with  spaces in front of the queue,causing the build.up and hence blocking the access to the site,

    On some sites with available staff I have noted one or two "instructing"that the driver stays with the vehicle and move up as the ones in front move off, (Incleborogh fields,The centenary site being two that we have noted when visiting at busy times