Magazine wrapper

Oneputt
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edited July 2018 in Club Products & Services #1

just received magazines from the RSPB and the Scout Association and both were wrapped in 100% potato starch packaging. Wonder if the club will consider this and get rid of the current polythene wrapping.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #2

    We've been told it's biodegradable, One.

  • Oneputt
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    edited July 2018 #3

    Thanks Tinny, I'll take a look when this months mag arrives

     

  • RedKite
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    edited July 2018 #4

    We do not get the Magazine through post anymore just digitally but have noticed that Butterfly Conservation are now sending their magazine in a large envelope instead of any packaging, did not notice RSPB but will check when next one arrives.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #5

    I should have added that Ro told us the wrappers can go in recycling or, if in landfill, they will biodegrade.

  • Oneputt
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    edited July 2018 #6
  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2018 #7

    That’s quite clear and beyond any doubt.👍🏻

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2018 #8

    RK has it best surely, digitally seems 100%👍🏻😊

  • RSPB
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    edited July 2018 #9

    As a charity, we are trying to find ways to reduce our own plastic pollution. The potato starch wrappers for our Nature’s Home magazine is just the start and we are currently looking into other areas where we can reduce plastic.

    For many years, we have also been successfully implementing a strategy for reducing the RSPB’s carbon footprint (especially from business travel and our built estate for example through a programme of investment in renewable energy and energy conservation measures). We are beginning to consider what other steps we might take to reduce plastic pollution as part of our wider strategy of waste reduction.

    I, myself, am on the Green Team for our region of RSPB. This team are always exploring ways that we can reduce our negative impact on the environment, and then ensuring that changes are implemented throughout the workforce.

    Any suggestions from this forum would be fantastic. I'll take them forward in our next meeting :)

  • Toro
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    edited August 2018 #10

    I recycle the club magazine wrapper as a doggie bag as I do with any other suitable materials and then it goes in a suitable bin.

  • RSPB
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    edited September 2018 #11

    That's also a great idea! 

  • Cartledge
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    edited September 2018 #12

    Why not just subscribe to the on-line edition. No wrapper of any sort, no paper, no printing ink just a lot of electrons.......

     

  • redface
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    edited September 2018 #13

    Apparently potato starch wrappers take about 12 months to rot down so my local council says do not include them in 'green waste' as they are looking for a 6-9 months for composting.

    They now go in landfill as a result. 

  • Stu44
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    edited December 2018 #14

    Like the RSPB, English Heritage and the Camping and Caravanning Club now also use a magazine wrapper made from potato starch which is fully home compostable or can be placed in the domestic garden waste bin.  When is our club going to catch up? 

    "Recycling" the polythene wrapper as a dog waste bag or bin liner is only a partial solution as does not remove it from the environment.

    Claiming, as some magazine issuers do (not yet the C&MC, I believe), that the polythene wrapper can be recycled at "larger stores" is a cynical attempt to pass the solution to us, the consumers - as always - rather than remove the problem at source.

    All members should campaign to make our club take action and either follow the Camping and Caravanning Club's lead or switch to a paper envelope.  Write to the Club now to demand action.

     

  • Justus2
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    edited December 2018 #15

    We get the Camping Club mag which says the wrapper can be put in the garden waste bin, the food waste bin or on a compost heap... as we have none of the above, it goes in the landfill bin. undecided

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2018 #16

    A food recycling caddy will be with you shortly according to the Government!!! We have had them for years here in MK.

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2018 #17

    Same here, Justus, but it’s not a problem as it will decompose in landfill.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited December 2018 #18

    I don't have food that needs recycling unless you are talking about potato peelings.

  • Stu44
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    edited December 2018 #19

    I've just received the January C&MC magazine.  In small print on the wrapper it says "The Poly Wrap for this magazine is recyclable.  Please recycle responsibly".  What a cop-out!  Most local authorities do not have kerbside collection of this type of plastic and many of us don't have ready access to "larger stores".  The result is that most of it will go to landfill. 

    My answer is "Please package the magazine responsibly".  Recycling simply means the plastic will eventually find its way into the environment in another form.  The only solution is to totally eliminate unnecessary plastic packaging at source.

  • richardandros
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    edited January 2019 #20

    So you don't have egg shells, plate scrapings, banana skins, chicken carcasses, tea bags etc etc?  Our brown bin is at least half full at every fortnightly collection and that's without the garden waste which the local allotment society collect and turn into compost available for free collection by local residents.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2019 #21

    So we are really talking about organic waste rather than "food" waste. Wasting food is anathema to me. Probably why I don't lose weight as well.undecided

  • Bakers2
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    edited January 2019 #22

    We have lots of recycling receptacles, including garden waste, food waste and plastic. I used to know exactly where to place the old wrapper - in the plastic. Not so sure now as food goes to create energy I believe and garden water gets composted. Both ask for no additional matter that doesn't constitute food or garden 😯.

    I will have to contact our local council to get a response in due course. This club aren't the only one to change the wrappers this way.

  • Mitsi Fendt
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    edited January 2019 #23

    Bakers,food waste is place in large tanks and the methane gas is captured which in turn is used as fuel to drive turbines which in ruen generate electricity. When composted down the food waste is then removed and farmers use it on the land.

    Hope this helps.

     

    Before someone tells me differently this information comes from my local council. Please address any disagreements to Bridgend County Borough Council.

  • Wildwood
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    edited January 2019 #24

    I noticed in the magazine it says the wrapper is recyclable but not how.

  • brue
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    edited January 2019 #25

    I think it's regarded as a bio-degradable plastic which will decompose in the right circumstances. The environment would be better saved using the starch based wrapper as described by the OP.

  • redface
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    edited January 2019 #26

    'Why not just subscribe to the on-line edition. No wrapper of any sort, no paper, no printing ink just a lot of  electrons'

    Nice idea, but my eyes are a bit on the ancient side, and prefer not to be subjected to a long period of bombardment by electrons if possible.

  • RowenaBCAMC
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    edited January 2019 #27

    Hi everyone, Thanks for your feedback, which I have forwarded to the magazine team. 

    The current material of the magazine wrapper is 100% recyclable and, as a responsible organisation, we monitor the scientific research and studies available to make sure we continue to work responsibly and with care for the environment

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2019 #28

    Its usually not the fact that something is recyclable but whether the local authority can cope with recycling it. We have so many different systems in this country that the opportunity for recycling film wraps could be quite limited. Better that it was made of something that can be composted like film made of potato starch. I use potato starch bags in my waste food caddy and if they are left more than a week they start to break down!

    David

  • Wildwood
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    edited January 2019 #29

    Does this mean I can put it in the compost bin or does it need to go elsewhere. Like others we are members of both clubs, and the C&CC one makes it quite clear on the wrapper what to do with it. Possibly this is where this club is falling down.