Let the others pass
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I wonder if this post is another, lets have a go at caravanners.
On our trip along the A40 in Wales last weekend we were held up by a MH scenery watching, a convey of about 12 Army Trucks (Sennebridge) and finally a convoy of American Hot Rods and that doesn't include the numerous farm implements, (none of which pulled over for us). No mention I see of the Sunday afternoon drivers who are out on weekdays and are usually in front of me so its not a case of the caravan holding me up
JVB - Agree with the A17 but it happens all year round
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Highway code Rule 169 says >>>>>
http:/http://www.highwaycode.info/rule/169/www.highwaycode.info/rule/169
When we towed I pulled in where I could if we seemed to be holding up traffic flow. Now we have a MH, I still do but the need to do so is less often.
It could help cut down on the anti caravan and MH brigade who want us all banned during daylight hours, or was it shot at dawn ?
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Even when you try, it does not always work.☹️ On our last visit to Hawes going up the dale I noticed a few cars building up behind. There are a couple of straight stretches on the road, so as we came to one and nothing was coming the other way, I eased off and put my near side indicator on. The vehicles behind all slowed and nobody passed. The straight ended and we continued on our merry way.😀
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I must say that towing is becoming a bit of a distant memory for me. I was more than happy for faster vehicles to overtake me if it was safe to do so. I think also there is a difference between a solo car overtaking a car and caravan, or a slow moving motorhome for that matter, and a larger vehicle trying to squeeze by on an unsuitable road. The reality is I expect that journey times are unlikely to increase by that much even if you do allow someone by. I suppose my main thought on this is that at the end of the day it is the responsibility of the person following me to make the decision to overtake. I can't make that decision for them. They may not want to overtake and me slowing down might be even more annoying to them? Probably the best and safest option is the pull into a lay by and let the traffic clear.
David
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I do not read this post as ‘having a go at caravans’. There are plenty of examples of slow and inconsiderate driving on the roads on a daily basis not confined to caravans. In Scotland the highways authorities do put signs to encourage slow traffic to pull over. I also find too many drivers are scared of overtaking and/or get too far up the backside of the vehicle in front they cannot see anything. It is not unknown for me to be 3or 4 cars behind the slow vehicle and because i have a good view overtake the lot in one go. It is amazing how that seems to wake up the other drivers. When towing i drive briskly and if a convoy builds up behind i try to position myself to allowing traffic to overtake.
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How you can take offense to my post, misconstrue it as an anti caravaner beggars belief. Could one have been a caravan another a M/H?(Cant remember or see that far ahead to be sure).I don't dissect my wording but thought any reasonable person would have seen the gist as a reminder of traffic on rural roads. By the way we country folk see the Vet as an emergency service. Have a nice day.
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Maybe because they thought you were turning left !!!
Was told by a Ex Motorway policeman that leave the actions of drivers upto themselves and not a third party trying (in good faith) to assist them.
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+1 😇
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It's not about right or wrong but about being courteous to other road users instead of making them wait. 🙄
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Without fueling the discussion that suggest that someone driving within the law at the speed limit should pull over to allows others to break it?
FWIW I will always drive at/on the limit for the road and conditions in the situation being discussed, if someone wants to break the law they can wait until the road conditions allow them to as far as I'm concerned
When I'm stuck in the middle lane of a motorway whilst two HGV's have a duel, I don't take to the 3rd lane, I wait and then pass them when it's all over
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Justus posted a link to the Highway Code earlier. I think it speaks for itself.
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Yep, maintain the same speed
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Very selective, Milo. You’re in line for a wooden spoon award there.
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Not at all, my point is if I'm towing at the speed limit for that kind of road why should I pull over to let others get ahead of me. If they want to break the law they can wait until the road ahead is clear and wide enough to pass me safely whilst they rush to cause the next accident or force some other poor sole coming in the opposite direction to take avoiding action.
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I think you misunderstand. If the speed limit is the same for all vehicles and you’re travelling at the speed limit then, in theory, you cannot be holding people up so there’s no suggestion of pulling over except for emergency vehicles.
However, on the majority of roads the speed limit for towing vehicles is less than that for most other vehicles and, in that situation, you may well hold others up even if travelling at your max speed limit. Thus, the Highway Code rule 169 comes into play "Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle.....".
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I have yet to see an HGV "pull over" as per the highway code,rule 169 is more pointed towards slow moving ie agricultural vehicles/JCBs etc not that it is taken notice of much these days as nearly all laybys seem full of HGVs on the drivers regulated breaks
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I would argue that a 10 mph reduction in permitted speed on a 60 mph country road is going to cause a massive tail back in flowing traffic. what you quote is surely aimed at tractors, road going plant etc. Are you suggesting that every HGV that use these roads should pull over to let cars and vans pass.
When did you last get stuck behind an artic that did that, and to be honest why should they.
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Perhaps, although there was no signage to indicate a junction and just a solid looking dales dry stone wall.
I think more likely it was because those immediately behind were to close and couldn't see if anything was coming the other way, and those further back did not want to risk those in front pulling out into them.
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It applies to all.
I’m merely showing you what the HC says. Remember, I didn’t write it so it’s not my case to argue.
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And as is the way to drive( i do not think it has changed over the years) you regulate your speed to the conditions ,there are numerous national speed limits on single carriageway roads that only an idiot would drive at,anyone who has driven on sections of the A10 towards Kings Lynn the HGVs will not attempt their 50mph on a 60mph road,and on the duel carriageway on the A1 northbound towards Peterborough it has several 50mph and 60mph sections and one 60mph section approaching the Black Cat roundabout where 40mph is difficult even solo on an S bend
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Nope, it does not say "all these rules apply to all road users except rule 169 which only applies to agricultural traffic".
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/using-the-road-overtaking.html
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