Less fussy members
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...which is why we go to the C&CC site
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to paraphrase Harry Enfield....and in the spirit of the OP...
"perhaps Im more fussy than you......"
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The c&cc are cheaper than us
give you discount for paperless
have more off grid sites
but I , know about their pitch fees, I would love to find out,
our club gears to comfort rather than original type of caravaning and high prices,
for our family to go on a club sits in school holidays will be £30.00 + per night, our club will say we give you ablutions block, e.h.u. laundry room,
who needs them vans now all have a shower, toilet and hot water
we will only go on a C.L. with NO E.H.U. and pay £6.00 per night max, run on gas and 12 volt with a 160 watt solar panel on the roof
it's time our club reduce prices, we not all rich
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for our family to go on a club sits in school holidays will be £30.00 + per night, our club will say we give you ablutions block, e.h.u. laundry room,
who needs them vans now all have a shower, toilet and hot water
we will only go on a C.L. with NO E.H.U. and pay £6.00 per night max, run on gas and 12 volt with a 160 watt solar panel on the roof
it's time our club reduce prices, we not all rich
The Club offers choice.
You've made your choice by the sound of it........a CL
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our club gears to comfort rather than original type of caravaning and high prices
Isn't this view a little bit of a misnomer. Your "original type of caravanning" used to be no choice caravanning because the facilities we now have were not generally available. It might be a chicken and egg situation but did the Club react to members requirements or did it provide the facilities that members followed? As caravans improved in the supply of on board facilities it did provide the caravanner with more choice. They can either follow the minimum facility route or the comfort route provided by Club sites, there is a choice and with Club sites and CL's the Club is surely facilitating both? I could be wrong but if the Club were able to open a completely new site with no inbuilt restrictions they would always build as a full facility site as they know the majority of members would prefer that and they could extract the maximum financial return from such a site.
David
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"I could be wrong but if the Club were able to open a completely new site with no inbuilt restrictions they would always build as a full facility site as they know the majority of members would prefer that and they could extract the maximum financial return from such a site."
I don't think you're wrong at all, David. The noticeable thing about virtually all the newly opened commercial sites, so often praised as superior to club sites, is their stress on large fully serviced HS pitches and excellent facilities ( which, of course, come at a price!)
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I was bored before the OH arrived and I bought this month's Caravan magazine, it has details of various sites and gives prices per night.
In the order they are given:
£32, £28.50, £39, £35, ..... these are all classed as 'super sites' but looking at the picture (which can lie) thy don't seem any better than club sites. Some are 'super' expensive too, Ruda Pak Devon is £61, Freshwater Park Dorest is £54 (three nights min) Kiln Park Wales is £82 !!!!
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David was talking about a completely new site built from scratch, PD. So there would be no possibility of reducing choice, would there? If the club wants to attract new families as opposed to providing more for the "already converted" it surely has to emulate what so many of those, allegedly, superior commercial sites are doing?
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Yes a choice of pitches, grass or HS, serviced or not, yes, I can accept the argument for a choice of EHU or not (far easier than metering, IMHO) but I can't see any way that a new site could be basic, no facility and attract sufficient newcomers to caravanning to be profitable. Otherwise surely the new commercials would be jumping on the bandwagon to provide them.
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...but the difference is that thise sites don't have dogs, EHU, pitch type or awning built into their prices..
for those who dont have dogs/kids, or require EHU, awning or HS the prices can be attactive.
I think the 'choice/flexibility' being referred to (even on any new site with 'full facilities') is that for customers to take and pay for options (dog, awning, EHU, Hs etc) only if they want them.....still a full facilities site but with more customer choice over which options they take up.
when price comparisons are done (as they are with club sites) it always seems like it has to be for someone with 2 kids, a couple of dogs, and awning, a hard standing and EHU...
yes, with the club, it's only the kids that are charged..but other sites can give flexibility over other key choices, like dogs, awnings, EHU, Hs/grass etc.....which obviously makes them attractive to folk who don't have these things....
all these 'extras' must be built in to club prices, perhaps it's because the 'typical' cc member has a dog or two, an awning, doesn't like grass, has to have EHU, that the club goes for a one size fits all price....
we use CCC from time to time (fitting in all these differing providers/locations is hard work) and usually go for a non awning pitch, on grass and no EHU in summer....
this is considerably cheaper than paying for the bits we don't need...
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Is it not the case that where the Club have non-electric grass pitches they have to offer them at quite low prices to interest people? If I am correct surely it suggests there is very little demand for that type of pitch. I am pretty sure the Club have shrewd idea of what the majority of its members want and they do their best to provide that.
David
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Giving customers choice is the ultimate way to go ----- BB's post is indicative of modern thinking regarding providing facilities or not, for Caravanners and Motorhomers.
Particularly with a motorhome, an electric hookup is not really required unless the customer is staying on site for about 4 days or more. More and more Motorhomes are having Solar Panels fitted as standard and the leisure battery is also being charged when the Motorhomer goes touring from the site. So why pay for an EHU when it's not required ?. Awnings are in the realm of Caravanners as motorhomers tend to favour roll out sun shades. Dogs are being charged for by many forward thinking campsite owners for obvious reasons
Will the CMC modernise like the other campsite owners and give their customers a proper choice, or remain an old fashioned "one size fits all" business.?.
K
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well as you are a CC customer, three recent sites to my memory you have been on, you should ask yourself that question?
But in essence I agree
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yes, with the club, it's only the kids that are charged..but other sites can give flexibility over other key choices, like dogs, awnings, EHU, Hs/grass etc.....which obviously makes them attractive to folk who don't have these things....
Surely the adults are charged for as well. If only one, that's all you pay for. Most other sites charge for 2 or more, at a consequently higher price.
all these 'extras' must be built in to club prices, perhaps it's because the 'typical' cc member has a dog or two, an awning, doesn't like grass, has to have EHU, that the club goes for a one size fits all price....
Is that not what a lot of folk like, me included. I personally hate companies that try and make something more price attractive, by having lots of optional extras.
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Is that not what a lot of folk like, me included. I personally hate companies that try and make something more price attractive, by having lots of optional extras.
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yes +1 steve
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"Particularly with a motorhome, an electric hookup is not really required unless the customer is staying on site for about 4 days or more"
That's only your opinion, K, not fact. We don’t all share that view.
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Is it "minus one" if you disagree that it was a "good post"......?..
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