Newbie - what hose should I carry?

ipt
ipt Forum Participant Posts: 17
edited June 2018 in Motorhomes #1

Not new to camping and caravanning but new to motorhome with on board water tank.

What hose should I carry for filling up on site for my motorhome. There is no technical connection on the motorhome just a straight forward filling point rather like a fuel tank filler point under a lockable flap.

I am wondering should I have food grade hose? and what length? are flat hoses OK to save space?

Ivor

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  • peedee
    peedee Club Member Posts: 9,387 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2018 #2

    Food grade flat hoses are best of not less than 15 meters although I prefer one of 25 meters. The disadvantages of flat hoses are you have to fully unwind them to use and they are not so durable as garden hoses.

    peedee

  • MichaelT
    MichaelT Forum Participant Posts: 1,874
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    edited June 2018 #3

    We had a roll up hose that broke after a few uses and we found it a faff to keep unwinding and rolling up again so we got one of these.

    https://www.yoyoextendablehose.co.uk/

    We do not use the water to drink from (5l container for that) so was not worried about food grade, also at home we use the garden hose to fill up anyway.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2018 #4

    Our last caravan had an on-board tank with a fuel type filler cap. I carried on of these for such times I could connect directly from a tap.

  • H B Watson
    H B Watson Forum Participant Posts: 183
    edited June 2018 #5

    I use the same as MollyMummy along with a pair of blue (food grade) hoses. I also carry an assortment of tap connectors, a couple of different size screw on ones, and a universal wing nut style one just in case.

  • KeithandMargaret
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    edited June 2018 #6

    I have about four metres of clear plastic pipe (see pic – fastened to inside of garage door) and a 20 metre reel of green garden hose.

    In six years of travelling in the UK and France I've only needed the longer pipe on one occasion.

    I have a variety of connections and an inlet filler cap (as suggested by MM) for ease of filling.

    Hozelock connectors are quite expensive but B&Q (and others) do a cheaper price range and are perfectly adequate.

    You may need more of 'B' (in pic) as they tend to be left on the tap quite regularly – well, mine do.

    On the plus side you may find the ones I left behind and feel free to use them.

    Water filling should be a simple process – let's keep it that way.

  • Dave Nicholson
    Dave Nicholson Forum Participant Posts: 408
    edited June 2018 #7

    In over a decade with a motorhome I’ve never used a hose. I use a watering can with a long spout. It’s good exercise when adding water and you don’t want to be carrying a tank full of water around with you if you’re to remain under 3.5t, assuming this is your limit.

  • Aspenshaw
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    edited June 2018 #8

    Food grade hose if you are going to drink the water in the tank. Flat hoses work ok but have the downsides mentioned by peedee. Length depends on what sort of motorhoming you do.

    I have always used 15m flat food grade hose, split into one 5m long and the other 10m. I have a collection of hozelock connectors as in K&M’s excellent photo.

    I do not use an adapter like MollysMummy but it is on my list to get one to save my wife having to hold the hose in the water inlet pipe.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2018 #9

    You don't have to drive round with a full water tank & a gallon or 2 from a watering can won't last long 

  • H B Watson
    H B Watson Forum Participant Posts: 183
    edited June 2018 #10

    Agreed, just fill up when you enter the site, I normally empty to about 30% when I leave a site if I'm going far.

    However I do carry a 2 gallon water bottle for use if I can't reach a tap (or can't be bothered to move).

  • hitchglitch
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    edited June 2018 #11

    Having weighed the motorhome fully laden we are happy to fill up at home with a garden hose and carry the full 100 litre until needing a top-up. We then use the hose provided at the service point but carry a flat hose of around 10m I think which came with the van. Quite handy if you are close to a tap so can fill up from your pitch.

    We don’t drink the water but carry mineral water which we buy cheaply and top up at the site tap. The advantage is that you can keep one cool in the fridge. We are not cold weather campers.

  • ipt
    ipt Forum Participant Posts: 17
    edited June 2018 #12

    Yes I think definitely I will use two hoses that can be joined to give easily two different lengths, I think my experience of flat hoses in the garden says no to that choice, I like the idea of the hose that increases in length but prefer to be able to put the end of the hose in the van filler point before I turn the water on so not that one for me.

    I already have a variety of connectors so just need to decide on food grade or just a good quality new hose.

    Using a container of any type will not work for us often as we plan to do some wild coming in Scotland.smile

  • ABM
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    edited June 2018 #13

    I've  only  just  renewed  my  10  foot  long  clear  plastic  tube  at  a  certain local ( + national )  DIY  storelaughing.  Its  cheap  enough  to  replace  regularly.  Then  I  thoroughly  sterilised  the  tap  connector,  and  placed  back  onto  the  new  tubing.  It  doen't  have  to  be  of  Food  Grade  pipe  'cos  the  water  is  only  in  contact  with  it  for  milliseconds !!

    If  I'm  moving  off  site  regularly, then  I'll  top  up  on  my  return,  but  should  I  be  on  site  for  several  days  I  use  the  2.5 gallon  red  watering  can  and  tell  folks  I'm  just  watering  the  tomatoes  and  peppers  innocent

    One  thing  I  insist  on  doing  is  sterilising  the  on-board  tank  with  the  proper  stuff  for  the  job,  obtainable  from  any  caravan / motorhome  accessory  store.

  • chasncath
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    edited June 2018 #14

    Can't agree more! 14 years ago, when we started, we did the faffing about with filling up and emptying out at MH service points. An old hand told us to get a watering can and a gerry can. We half fill our fresh water tank at the start of our expeditions ( using short blue plastic hose) before leaving our storage site, and then top up with our watering can (11 litres, 2€ from Super U) and empty the grey water via gerrycan on daily basis. Ours is a modest 'van and can only heat water by gas (so old!), so we use on-site facilities.  Drinking and cooking water from a 5 litre white plastic container, refreshed daily.

    We also drop a couple of water purifying tablets in our on-board tank at the start of our trips.

  • peedee
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    edited June 2018 #15

    Would you believe it, my food grade flat hose has just failed me. A strange fault. It seems the inside lining has melted and become sticky( I assume with the heat) and throughout its length stuck together in places restricting water flow and stopping water draining out so it can no longer be wound up on its reel. I have binned 90 percent of it and kept a short length and opted to carry one of the cheap >magic ones<. as well.

    I do have two 2 gallon plastic watering cans for the rare occasions when I need to top up rather than move off pitch. I find two easier to carry than one and I have a large water tank!

    peedee

  • ABM
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    edited June 2018 #16

    Seems  like  a  well-balanced  arguement,  peedee  wink

  • peedee
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    edited June 2018 #17

    Well it did last a good few years, my second in 18 years so no complaints.

    peedee

  • QFour
    QFour Forum Participant Posts: 442
    edited June 2018 #18

    Just buy a couple of watering cans. Saves all the hassle of tap connectors and hose pipes. You will also find that they fit every form of tap ever invented.

    if a hosepipe ban starts as in Northern Ireland you will still be able to fill up.

  • xanadoo
    xanadoo Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited April 2020 #19

    What is the adapter like ‘mollysmummy’ as it sounds like we need one.

     

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited April 2020 #20

    You just need to click in the link .... but it's here

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorhome-Water-Inlet-Filler-Cap-With-Quick-Hose-Connector/352204768727?epid=598313716&hash=item52010a45d7:g:L7EAAOSwkNpaZOLg

    Basically a filler cap with a Hoselock connector fitted to it. 👍

  • ABM
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    edited April 2020 #21

    HooHoo, it's a two year old thread, Xanadoo !!

    Actually it is a hose pipe connector mounted on the water-inlet style cap !  nothing too techy, so it might  (! undecided !) be out of stock at present, so check carefully !!

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2020 #22

    What hose should you carry? 50 denier - it helps your varicose veins. wink

  • peedee
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    edited May 2020 #23

    I prefer store flat food grade hose. They are easier to handle and store and there is no risk of tainting the water with unpleasant tastes. The downside, in my view, is even the best store flat hoses have a shorter life than your standard garden hose.

    I start off with a 25 meter one but can get by most of the time with just 15 meters which is the current length I have as I have had to shorten it due to failure. Its the second one I have had in 20 years and is in poor condition and I do now need to replace it.

    Get yourself a store flat food grade and a collection of tap adapters.

    peedee