Cash only in on site shops
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l can see why the situation is as it is, but nevertheless it is still 'odd' and a bit of a pain for the customer....
however, not an issue for us as we don't normally buy 'stuff' in the site shop and collect required things when out and about..
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Do you know, I sometimes think, if I were a warden reading some comments on here, I'd be tempted to say "stuff the lot of you!" I'll check you in, maintain the site, make sure everything's working, even come out after hours when you trip the EHU, but if you want any extras there's a whole load of shops down the road ... off you trot!
Fortunately the club's wardens don't adopt that attitude, they do the best they can and, in my experience, they do it very well but still some seem to expect more of them!
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It's never been a situation I've encountered in CC office/shop & it's only reading this thread that I've found this out.
I dont suppose it is that obvious. I remember we only found out about it the first time we bought gas. As others have mentioned for milk, ice cream etc we had always used cash.
Not an issue though, although I don't carry a lot of cash, I always have enough for a 6kg gas cylinder. Personally I don't see it as an issue, the reasons for it have been explained and to me make sense. These days I don't always expect to use plastic, or cash. Both extremes exist and if you want to use the outlets you make sure you have the means to pay.
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As it's Wednesday, which for us is chip shop takeaway for dinner day.
The chippy doesn't take cards, only cash. It's always full.
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Ever noticed establishments owned by similar ethnicity folk, only work in cash no matter where in the land you are
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Thinking further, independent ice cream sellers seldom accept other than cash
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Our daughter has a payment card, a Henry, that gives her responsibility with her pocket money, gift money etc. She can use it as a debit card, or for cash withdrawals. Even at age 11 she knows ice cream on CAMC sites requires cash. If she hasn't budgeted or withdrawn cash for our well planned trips, no ice cream. Its called tough love.
At school her lunch account is operated by thumb print, with the budgeted amount each month credited by us.
We can monitor both, but have found her sensible enough to manage herself.
Same as her mobile phone, as she travels 20 miles by bus each way she got a mobile on starting senior school. Initially we had concerns over mobile data usage and set a limit with no top up facility. At start of the summer term she realised she needed more data and used her pocket money for the data increase and each month stays within the limit.
It is a different world than we were brought up in, but by applying the same principles, checks and balances, we have all learned to adapt.
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Would be easier if car parks used the same mobile app. Park, open app, click button, return later. Know where the car is as the phone has paired with it and makes a record automatically.
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Sounds like you're being very sensible in raising your daughter in this respect 😉.
I like the idea of Henry having grandchildren overseas I'm not aufait with the modern 😂. I was concerned that moneybox and a few $ were considered as playthings
.Still no official acknowledgement or response 😉 on the subject of the thread.
Ps enjoy your fish and chips.
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One reoccurring element to this discussion seems to be gas. Perhaps the club could take control of it then you could pay for it by card . Unless the wardens get a kick back for selling it ,which I have no problem with,as it's my fault if l run out , not theirs.
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There seems to be a few red herrings appearing in this thread. Surely it is simply about whether there should be more payment options in site reception, especially when buying more expensive items like gas and toilet chemicals etc? I carry a reasonable amount of cash with me but buying either of those items would put a dent in that cash. I probably wouldn't want to buy ice creams with a card but can understand how others could be caught out if they are not used to carrying cash around. Just because things have always been done one way doesn't mean that is the right way to continue. Whilst what is on sale on sites is under the control of the wardens the Club would need to be involved with collating information and perhaps negotiating a deal that would allow wardens to have access to reasonably priced means for electronic payment. You could always have a minimum £5 spend, mind you that won't buy a family ice creams on a Club Site!
David
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There seems to be a few red herrings appearing in this thread.
Indeed.
I was resigned to the club payment methods remaining in the 19th century so that children could learn to count and change could be given to charity.
Both admirable actions but not really the function of the on site shop.
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Red herrings indeed ....
The CAMC don’t run a shop on their sites. It’s fairly obvious that they don’t want to run a shop on their sites. Enterprising wardens, some more than others, provide a limited range of services, which they finance themselves. This means they will hopefully make a small profit in the long term, having taken all the risk. Whether it’s for extra income or to help us out, who knows, but it no doubt helps some people out. The wardens are able to bank the cash paid for these items into their own bank accounts, without charge. Card payments, whilst incredible popular nowadays, are expensive to both provide and carry out. So they don’t accept them. Would you ???
It seems fairly obvious that if the CAMC had to deal with the issue of card payments on behalf of wardens, or to run the shop as part of the CAMC offer, they would choose to simply stop allowing the wardens to sell things. Obvious because they plainly don’t want to run a shop, and because they would be unable to process transactions on behalf of the wardens due to VAT and HMRC implications.
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Is that inclusive of the reduced rate VAT due to HMRC, wotever that rate is. How many bottles formed the single delivery to the site or usage thereof? Is there a refund of VAT on unsold or unused gas bottles? Who is the VAT collector on behalf of HMRC, warden, supplier or you as the end user / burner of the gas? Has the due VAT been paid in the chain? As the end user, the burner of the gas, are you responsible for the VAT?
and all you are doing is going on tour!!
At least milk is simpler.
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Why on earth would a warden choose to register for VAT ? They would be able to claim back the VAT they pay to suppliers, but would lose 1/6 of their turnover, the difference making them worse off, or the flat rate scheme and they would pay 16.5% of turnover. Plus the hassle and paperwork !!
A warden would probably rather you put your dog on a 3m lead, walking the wrong way round the one way system, than they had to do that 😎😂😂
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Hi everyone,
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this very engaging and interesting discussion.
The Club has two ‘official’ Club Shops, one being at Hillhead and the other is at Brecon Beacons. These shops accept both cash and card payments and stock food and drink as well as additional leisure essentials such as BBQs, outdoor furniture, cleaning products etc. What’s more members of the Club can received up to 10% discount on selected leisure essentials. We are hoping to roll out more Club Shops in the near future!
All sites have the option to sell products on their site.This is at the discretion of the site staff with the site staff purchasing stock and retaining all earnings. The Club does not get involved with any purchasing of products, fund management etc.
Jspur, we have passed your feedback with regards to card machines onto the sites operations for their reference. Many thanks.
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Some of us could find the shops very useful if we arrive on site to discover we have less milk/bread/toilet chemical than we thought. It may also help those who don’t want to take their vehicles off site simply to buy their eggs and bacon/sunscreen/umbrellas.
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It does seem peculiar to me that some members believe it makes more sense to drive to an ATM and use the technology of a debit card to withdraw cash rather than using that same technology to pay at the point of sale.
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Not forgetting an old £5 note hidden in the folds of your cravat👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻😊
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I have only used a cash machine once in my life. I have no need to use one, The reason that I used that particular one was that I was able to specify the denominations that I want.
It does seem peculiar to me that some members don't carry a modicum of cash even if in their caravan/motorhome or car
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When shopping for groceries to be used in the LV when away and paying by debit card "cash back" is usually part of our transaction or useing the (as is available at most larger stores) the free to use cashpoint,so no need for a "special" trip to get cash
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Do you actually go into the bank to get cash, how very old fashioned.
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