To speed or not to speed
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MM and TW fully agree.
Just been doing some looking around on various websites and the stopping distance (reaction + braking) with an average reaction times (and on a club site you might be more relaxed than average?) are:
5mph is around 5 feet, for 10mph its around 13 feet. At one speed you may not hit a child or adult, at the other you might. Also the higher speed the greater the (mathematical) impact and perhaps greater injury.
Children will be children, and no matter how well supervised they will do impulsive things, (sorry - no pun intended) and accidents happen to the best parents.
How anyone can argue with a 5mph limit, no matter how much a good driver they are, is beyond me?
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It is always the responsibility of the Driver if an accident occurs and speeding contributed to the accident.---- I agree with the 5 mph speed limit on campsites for all vehicles including the site mini tractors.
However I agree with your statement that "Nowadays too many parents abdicate there responsibilities then blame others when things go wrong".
K
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I am far from perfect but I will never be a hypocrite & attack parents for allowing their children a life outside the close confines of supervisory over concerned guardians. What I will do is-I will not arrogantly drive around an area that has free ranging children enjoying being children growling at them. A lot of people have a very short memory, the ones who are on this forum moaning about the same free ranging children being stuck in front of a computer all day. Today’s children & parents are vilified whatever they do. Not by all of us, but certainly by quite a few. It’s very sad indeed☹️
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+1
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Very few responsible parents would allow young children to play on the road unless it was a designated "Play Street". ----Even at 5 MPH if a child ran out in front a moving vehicle, he /she could seriously injured. The driver has a responsibility to drive safely, but the parent also has a responsibility to ensure that the child is not playing in a dangerous situation.
K
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You obviously did then. Don' try to take the moral high ground by trying to imply you're better than me just because you've a legal back ground. We've all seen ridiculous sentences dished out by judges that are completely out of touch with the world around them.😡
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And you wonder why threads get closed
JK
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Folk should be reminded of the community guidelines metinks.
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+1 (if only)
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Unfortunately just reminding people of the rules in life is not sufficient......
There has to be a punishment for breaking them, otherwise those rules are worthless....
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JP eh DD, I had to look it up😨. The position is akin to that of a PCSO it seems, minor roles for both & kicking the major decisions/work upstairs. Very community minded👍🏻
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Hmm............maybe our view of minor roles varies, but a JP is usually one of 3 magistrates that decides your fate should you appear in a magistrates court (within the ultra soft guidelines set by government(s), note the "s" so non political..
).I have "met" many people that would not agree that a JP is a "minor role".........
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T1, compared to a judge I doubt they’re up there in importance. I too have met quite a few ‘gentlemen farmers’ who are JP’s & would not agree that a JP is NOT a minor role☹️
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But only 5% of cases go to Crown Court and get heard by a Judge....
So JP's despatch most British justice.....
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.....
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But as the Judiciary also sit in County Courts, amongst others, we can presumably safely assume that magistrates deal with far less than 95% of cases.
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TW....feel free to assume anything you like ......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magistrates%27_court_(England_and_Wales)
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Gee, sorry, but I’ve better things to do. Thanks anyway.
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Gee, sorry, but I’ve better things to do
Apology accepted...........
All that wasn't by any means the best part of a past life of mine either, I'm very happy to have moved into a completely different world.....
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I hope you dispensed swift justice on those 2 crazy kids in your avatar T1👍🏻
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QualificationsEdit
There are no statutory requirements as to the qualifications of a magistrate. There are, however, six core requirements as to the character of candidates for the magistracy, as laid down by the Lord Chancellor in 1998.[20] These are:
1 Good character: Magistrates are expected to have personal integrity, enjoy the respect and trust of others, and be able to maintain confidences.
2 Understanding and communication: Magistrates must be able to understand documents, identify and comprehend relevant facts reasonably quickly and follow evidence and arguments.
3 Social awareness: Magistrates must have an appreciation of, and accept the need for, the rule of law in society. Magistrates should also display an understanding of their local communities, society in general, and have an understanding of the causes and effects of crime.
4 Maturity and sound temperament: Magistrates must have the ability to relate to and work with others. They must have regard for the views of others and a willingness to consider advice.
5 Sound judgement: Magistrates must have the ability to think logically, weigh arguments and reach a balanced decision. They must be objective and have the ability to recognize and set aside their prejudices.
6 Commitment and reliability.: Magistrates must be committed to serving the community and be reliable.
You’d be hard pressed to find any qualifier for the job around here😂😂🤪
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Maybe I am but I find the whole issue of amateur judges very quaint and unprofessional. Sorry if that offends but there you are, that’s my view.
I worked with 3 people who became JPs. Oh, the superior attitude they adopted! One even insisted the letters JP were used after his name on inter-office memos. How pompous and officious can you get?
Perhaps you can see why I don’t have a great opinion of JPs in general.
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