Medical Insurance for Europe

hitchglitch
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edited April 2018 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

As we get older the cost of travel insurance is getting higher and our normal worldwide annual insurance is expensive.  We will be taking the motorhome to France and Italy for several weeks this year and I am wondering whether medical insurance is necessary. We have breakdown and recovery insurance with the motorhome and do not require cancellation insurance so that just leaves medical for which in theory the EHIC arrangement should cover.

Does anybody have experience of requiring significant medical treatment in Europe and comparing the reciprocal arrangements with fully insured cover?

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  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #2

    I'm not too sure about what basic cover the EHIC would give, but travel insurance covers more than this. What would happen if you were ill or had a accident (God forbid) and needed repatriation to the UK? You would have to find the funds which could be considerable, or wait until you could get yourself home after being discharged from hospital and again where would you live?

    Not cheaper to just take out European insurance than worldwide?

  • Qashqai66
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    edited April 2018 #3

    I agree.  I once spent a few nights in hospital in Limoges and started to feel concerned about getting home.  Thankfully I recovered and all was well.

  • hitchglitch
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    edited April 2018 #4

    We will be going to Far East and Australia later in the year so an annual policy would need to be Worldwide (excluding USA).

  • eurortraveller
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    edited April 2018 #5

    A friend's daughter was glad of insurance when she needed a private flight back to UK  with a medic in attendance after a car crash last summer. Yes, EHIC paid for most of her stay in a state hospital in France before the flight home, but had she been taken to a private hospital in Spain (as many are). she would have needed insurance for that too. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #6

    yes, Many year ago my wife's brother in law got ill (fully recovered) while on holiday in Austria, he and his wife were flown home on a air-ambulance half way through the holiday and ambulances door to door. This was just the standard Thompson's holiday insurance.

  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #7

    As an aside I was told not to go private if treatment is needed in Spain. Better to stick with their health scheme. I am currently planning to park my wheels up with regard to foreign travel at 80yrs and stick to the UK if it proves expensive for insurance and that is of course if I can keep my C1+E licence. Don't think I would risk going without insurance.

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #8

    >This site< should help you out Hitch.

    peedee

  • Wherenext
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    edited April 2018 #9

    I use the Nationwide B/Soc. Their Flexplus account gives me worldwide cover. They have a 30 or31 day limit but I can extend that and just have to 60 days. I also have an ongoing medical problem that they load for but my total expenditure for the year for the extras they give me will be just over £230. This includes full UK and European breakdown cover so no Green Flag needed, plus my wife is going on holiday with her mother later this year and her insurance is covered automatically.

    Annual Red Pennant worked out over £400 with medical load,plus Green Flag.

    The B/Soc give me a small interest payment on the account so that helps a bit in offsetting some of  the monthly fee. 

    All in all a better deal for me, but not necessarily everyone and having worked in the insurance industry and seen how large some of those claims for medical insurance can be then I wouldn't rely on EHIC, especially the older one is.

  • commeyras
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    edited April 2018 #10

    Hitchglitch.  I would not travel in Europe without medical insurance.  Bear in mind that in France the EHIC covers roughly 70% of the costs of non life threatening illnesses.  Break your leg - a bill, collapse in street - a bill, fall off your bike and taken to hospital - a bill and so it goes on.  When we lived in France I needed hernia op and before I could leave the hospital I had to pay (or have insurance clearance) for I think it was 1300 euros. For Europe Red Pennant could possibly be good for you.  Your bank may offer cover up to age of 80.  Down under, well that's another problem and you will have to do some investigation.  I am seeing a friend this evening who went to Australia in Jan, think he is over 80 I will ask him what he did and come back to you. 

  • hitchglitch
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    edited April 2018 #11

    Excellent. Thanks peedee. 

  • Bakers2
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    edited April 2018 #12

    We too are FlexPlus at Nationwide for more than a couple of years. 3 trips to visit daughter in NZ covered extended to 100 days less than £100 per year extra. Both under 70 and I believe you're allowed up to 2 meds per person. Had to use home start on vehicle cover 3 times, including a lift, since our return this year. 2 for flat battery - got us going but Halford declined to fit battery as it' under the seat - not insured 😲😲, so they happily got us going again when ATS were open.also covers the motorhome too.

    Another benefit of this account is commission free cash withdrawals on your debit card and a credit card attached is commssion free for purchases. Both worldwide. Also cash back on the credit card in UK. 

  • Tammygirl
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    edited April 2018 #13

    We also have the Nationwide Flex plus account, we have increased the medical insurance to 80 days at a cost of £80. They give you the offer of covering (at a cost) pre-existing conditions or not having cover for them. We've used this policy for the past 3 years and as WN says you also get european wide breakdown cover.

    Might be worth looking at. 

  • peedee
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    edited April 2018 #14

    I have it in the back of my mind that if you don't first use your EHIC card where it is accepted insurance companies will not cover all your expenses.

    peedee

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2018 #16

    Most European insurance policies have an excess if you don't use the EHIC card.

    We are not world wide travellers so fortunately don't have to arrange such insurance. When we have trips to Europe not in the motorhome or on a cruise we tend to use Age UK. With the motorhome we always use Red Pennant because at the end of the day I need a combined policy and I have been down the route of using so called "free" insurance policies and usually found they are far from free with our combined medical conditions. The trouble with opting to not cover some conditions is whether insurance companies would use it as an excuse not to pay up if another problem had the slightest link. Red Pennant whilst fairly straightforward even they can be difficult if you are on a regime of changing medication. 

    David

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2018 #17

    good interesting post DD

  • Tammygirl
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    edited April 2018 #18

    We had to use emergency cover while in Spain for OH, he was taken by ambulance from the campsite to A&E where he received very good care, a further visit 2 days later again to A&E however this time we chose to use a Taxi wink all this was covered by EHIC, the only thing we had to pay for was the medication they prescribed and the Taxi. We informed the FREE insurance company of the situation as it happened  they asked us to keep them informed but also called OH back the next day to see if we needed any help with anything. They also said if required repatriation wouldn't be a problem.

    While on a cruise in the Caribbean we both took ill and had to receive medical intervention on board ship, this time it was the FREE holiday cover that picked up the bill, we didn't even have to pay the excess as the ships medical staff dealt with all the paperwork for us. Had we chosen to do the paperwork our self we would have paid £50 excess each. The bill was paid very quickly by insurance company at no lose to us. 

    We have recently renewed our policy and extended the 31 days to 80 days, the previous conditions we had listed were removed as we had not had any medical intervention in the last 12 mths.

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  • hitchglitch
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    edited April 2018 #20

    We always have insurance cover outside Europe and for cruising. Unfortunately the Caribbean counts as USA and they do load the premium even if you are actually on the ship and not an Island.

    So, there seem to be contrary views on how effective the EHIC cover is but the NHS website is quite clear that in France for example you will have to pay part of the cost. Having just been on the phone to Sky for 45 mins as they tried to sell me insurance which I don’t need (the box has a lifetime guaranteej and all I wanted was to book a technician, I am sceptical about the whole insurance business, nevertheless, we should probably take out European cover and will look at our Nationwide and premium banking offers.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited April 2018 #21

    Yes its surprising how many folk don't realise you have to check that holiday cover includes 'Cruises' it can be very expensive otherwise.

  • onepjg
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    edited April 2018 #22

    Hitch- off at a slight tangent, sorry everyone -  lifetime cover on a sky box ? Tell me more

  • commeyras
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    edited April 2018 #23

    Hitchglitch.  Sorry my friend couldn't help re Aussie insurance.  He is 75 and gets his through Saga but he pays a fortune so I steared him to a bank (Lloyds or Nationwide - there are others).  EHIC does work!  The link pointed out earlier is excellent.  I am with Lloyds and have an annual worldwide multi trip policy. for the two of us, which includes the USA but has some comments re Australia which we have not needed yet.  The policy is valid until I reach 80 so a few years to go.