Are the campsites in London safe.

Kennine
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edited April 2018 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

With all the adverse publicity about Gangs, Stabbings, Pollution and Violence, is it still safe to stay on any of the London campsites and tour the area ?.

K

 

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  • young thomas
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    edited April 2018 #2

    we're going to Crystal Palace later in the year so I hope so, Kwink

    seriously, we've been all over the world with and without our MH and I believed (or took notice of) everything that's on the news, we wouldn't go very far....

    for example, parts of Bristol are notoriously gang influenced, would this stop anyone visiting Baltic Wharf?....

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2018 #3

    As safe as in parts of Scotland

  • IanTG
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    edited April 2018 #4

    We stopped a few days recently at Wyatts Covert, Uxbridge and then onto Baltic Wharf, Bristol. No problems at either, and we spent a whole day whilst at the former walking around London. Perfectly ok.

    at Bristol, it’s fair to say, there did seem to be a lot of homeless, rough sleepers around, but other than the visual presence of their existence, they may as well have not been there. No begging or soliciting.

    i agree with the sentiment of being sensible and not letting barriers stop one’s enjoyment. We employed those same principles in New Orleans, Memphis, LA etc - and again were fine.

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2018 #5

    Haven’t heard of any stabbing, shootings, gangs or pollution on any club campsites ⛺️ so have to imagine they are as safe as all the other sites in the 🇬🇧 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #6

    I think you've got it in one, One. smile

  • brue
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    edited April 2018 #7

    Just to put the record straight Bristol has nowhere near the high crime rates found in other major cities. I think it ranked 14th in the league tables for cities where people feel relatively safe. 

     

  • KeefySher
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    edited April 2018 #8

    But you wouldn't walk round StPauls on your own, would you? tongue-out

  • rich 81
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    edited April 2018 #9

    We had a week in the summer of 2016 at Crystal Palace and it was lovely and we felt very safe. The number 3 bus is just outside the entrance so you board on the opposite side of the road and it takes you to the centre of London. We loved it

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2018 #10

    We stopped a couple of years ago at Abbey Wood, never felt unsafe. Even when we arrived back later than normal. The site itself is totally fenced, some of it with barbed wire. The gate was locked, I think at 8pm and pedestrian entry was by means of a small coded gate.

    Similarly with Baltic Wharf, we don't have a problem with walking back from town on an evening.  Again the site is fenced / walled all round and gate closed at night, with fob / key required for access. Agree about St Paul's though. Also we stuck to the roads, rather than the underpasses when we walked back from the night event at the balloon festival. As with all cities there are more risky areas,

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2018 #11

    I'd be more worried amongst men in skirts.

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2018 #12

    ...that was my point....

    statistically, is St Pauls the 14th most likely place in the UK to encounter 'crime'.....?

    wherever you are, use common sense...if it feels 'wrong' it pronably is..frown

  • Kennine
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    edited April 2018 #13

    It has just been reported on the BBC this morning that for the first time in history,  Murders in London exceed those of New York. surprised

    By the replies to the OP, the actual Campsites appear to be safe (Thanks for that)   - BUT - will it be safe to tour the London area ?  few people stay continually on site for the complete duration of their holiday.

    K

  • Bakers2
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    edited April 2018 #14

    Of course London is safe.

    Those headline figures about murder levels are to grab your attention. I worked there for years, IRA trouble time included. No go areas are enforced and succeed from just this sort of mentality.

    Anywhere can be dangerous, you just have to keep things in perspective.  Crossing the road, as happened in Coventry at the weekend resulted in a toddler dead and his mother badly injured. Do we stop crossing the road in just Coventry or everywhere?

  • brue
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    edited April 2018 #15

    Likewise Bakers2, I have family who live in central Bristol and shock horror know someone who lived and worked in the Bristol area of St Pauls. Most people get on with their lives in a crime free manner wherever they live. 

    I'm sure Kennine must be brave enough to venture out in his part of the world at some point....wink

  • dunelm
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    edited April 2018 #16

    The bus stop is not just outside the entrance.

    It is about a 5 to 10 minutes walk from the entrance, depending on speed of walking  and whether or not the traffic lights are green for pedestrians.

  • dunelm
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    edited April 2018 #17

    Why?

    What is your point?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2018 #18

    Dunelm, there isn’t room on this thread to start reeling off history lessons. Neither of the UK, nor of posters. laughing

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  • dunelm
    dunelm Forum Participant Posts: 373
    edited April 2018 #20

    Sorry, I don't see the relevance of your post. It has been wasted on me.

  • Extugger
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    edited April 2018 #21

    And London is still third on the list of "most dangerous cities" behind Bradford and topping the list....... you guessed it......Glasgow.

    Think I'd sooner take my chances in 'The Smoke' 😉

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2018 #22

    Just outside is 5-10 min  walk it is just outside ,unless you are amongst what is getting more common the "legless ones" who have to drive the 5min walk to their local schools /shops undecided

  • Kennine
    Kennine Forum Participant Posts: 3,472
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    edited April 2018 #23

    Fake news !! surprised  ----- Let's see your 2018 proof  smile

    wink

  • dunelm
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    edited April 2018 #24

    JV, I am surprised at this post and the tenor of it. 

    Walking is not a problem at all for me but there are some people  (with limited mobility) who  genuinely find a  big difference between having a bus stop just outside a site (ie. at or opposite the entrance) and one which may take  10 minutes to reach.

    I agree with you that some people use their cars unnecessarily but that wasn't the issue - it was about the inaccuracy of a post stating that a bus stop was just outside a particular site.

    I don't want this to get into confrontation so presumably we'll agree to disagree about what "just outside" means.

  • dennisd
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    edited April 2018 #25

    We've stayed at Crystal Palace a few times and have never had cause for worry or concern. Outside the site is Crystal Palace park. which is good for a bit of exercise  and  further along the road the "village " has some good pubs and restaurants. The  No3 bus takes you straight into the centre of London. I remember being pleasantly surprised the first time a group of teenage boys boarded the return bus, I was expecting the usual mayhem but their good behaviour put our local kids to shame , and that's been the norm  for every bus trip we've made in the capital . I've always felt safe and relaxed there, and if I lived in London this is the area I'd choose. Enjoy your trip.

  • Tigi
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    edited April 2018 #26

    Spent many enjoyable trips to Crystal Palace without any problems mainly in the winter when coming back is in the dark. Not so keen on Abbey Wood but thats just personal preference.

    Regards buses the No. 363 is as close as the No 3 and goes to Peckham from where the City, Tower and east London can be reached.

  • flatcoat
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    edited April 2018 #27

    We have used Abbey Wood numerous times and as for ‘safe’ London isn’t in South Africa! It just shows how a few headlines can give a totally wrong impression that has otherwise rational people getting the implications out of perspective. Apply common sense (I know that is now almost outlawed by political correctness and nanny state) with where you go and you will be fine. There are places in Scotland I would be as wary of as parts of London (and I have string Scottish credentials)  - years ago no one in their right mind walked round Leith on their own in the dark......

  • rich 81
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    edited April 2018 #28

    They must have moved the bus stop since we were visiting. It certainly wasn't a 10 minute walk. Turn left out of the site and you can see the bus stop, cross over the road and you are heading the correct way for the number 3 bus to the centre. 

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2018 #29

    Yep, near enough just outside.

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited April 2018 #30

    No ..M25 near enough.