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When will the manufacturers of these devices fit rubber tyres!!!!!!!!Am I alone in finding the"morning trundle" by caravanners an annoyance?I carry my waste container to the emptying point as I have done for the last 40 odd years.The flat waste water container fits under the van on sloping sites,fits in the gas locker when on tow,and most importantly.........makes no noise!!!!!!
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the Fiamma 23 ltr wheeled container has rubber wheels and is very quiet....
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DS, maybe not everyone is as fit as you and can’t carry the WM.
The 'morning trundle' welcomes me to another day. It really isn’t a problem and campsite life is bound to involve a little noise. We don’t live in a silent world.
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I am far from fit suffering with copd and aged well over 70!HOWEVER.........even if I was fit and a lot younger ...I would not attempt to carry a wastemaster!!!!!! PS I am also partially deaf (according to the wife!!)
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The Fiamma waste container is quiet on our preferred grass pitches. Its on gravel hard standings and roads on sites where it gets noisy.
On a serviced grass pitch, that are not available on CAMC sites, there is no need for either a waste or a water container, so no noise there either.
The noise from glass bottles being disposed of is unavoidable no matter where you pitch.
All part of the adventure of this caravanning/motorhoming lark .
Is not the weight of a full waste master, or even a Fiamma above recommended lifting limits for manual handling? oops that's another disc gone
Hence the wheels 
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DS, you said -
"I carry my waste container to the emptying point as I have done for the last 40 odd years."
So it’s not a WM. How confusing. The only logical explanation is that your waste 'container' is very small, is light, has no wheels and probably needs emptying several times a day.
Live and let live, I reckon.
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How can you be confused?The wastemaster is a comparitively new invention!my waste container was made/sold by Fiamma lots of years ago.It is black,has large entrance and exit caps,it is flat and can hold approximately 25 ltrs of grey water.It requires emptying once a day....2 people,shower,wash up etc.A 40 ltr aquaroll contains enough water for 1.5 days use!I never inferred that it was a wastemaster!!!My post was written tongue in cheek about the noise created by this type of waste container which has plastic,noisy wheels,whilst the aquaroll etc has rubber tyres!!!!
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Nope, tongue in cheek would have involved the use of smileys
.It’s confusing because you talked about Wastemasters and then said you carried your waste container creating the impression by implication that yours is a WM.
Your container, it turns out, will weigh around 25kg when full but you can’t carry a WM. No wonder I’m confused
Good on you, I wish I could carry 25kg to the service point.
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I don't know when it was, but it must have been a very long time ago that someone, to make life better for mankind, invented the wheel.
However, carrying a waste tank must be the ultimate in one-up-manship amongst those who are into retro.
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oops....I generally carry (quietly) my full toilet cassette to the CCEP mainly as the roads are so bumpy it would bounce all over the place....and we don't want that...
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Our previous cassette had a large capacity, no wheels and was b***** heavy whereas our new one has little capacity, wheels and is so light I always carry it.
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Has anyone even suggest to the manufactures that they might like to try rubber wheels
Thought not
Come on they are really annoying when you're still counting the Zzzzzz's Why does some folk think that just because you are on a campsite you should expect noise.
Like others on here we often tour abroad I'm sure I can count on 1 hand the number of times I have been woken to noise over there, its usually by a Brit and the flipping WM or a sliding door. Over here I would say the times I am 'not' woken I am very grateful. Sites don't have to be noisy its folk that are noisy.
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I don't expect noise on a campsite but I'm realistic and don't expect silence either. Really annoying? Not to me. Perhaps you're a very light sleeper, TG.
My sliding door will only close properly if slid and slammed. There's nowt I can do about that other than use it as little as possible. But, on the upside, I dont have a wheeled water container. Swings and roundabouts.
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I think it a little selfish that others want me to be quiet when I trundle along the road at 6am with my plastic wheeled Fiamma. I like to make the most of my day and if I can help others do the same, I consider my good deed done. I get lots of thumbs up through the crack in the curtains.
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On the few occasions we have left early, it is possible to pull a fullish wastemaster quietly, just not at speed. Also utilise the grass as much as possible. I always carry the empty one back whatever the time of day, as they do make a horrendous racket.
Personally I have never been disturbed by early morning trundling, but appreciate that others are more easily disturbed. It just requires a bit of thought and consideration. The same as not opening and slamming the car door every time you put something in it at the crack of dawn.
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I don't normally bother about starting to get ready for departure until 8am and then try to do so quietly. Usually aim for 70 to 130 mile drive to next site and so departure from one site depends on arrival at the next. Normally leave site between 9am and 10.15am.
If, for some reason, we want to move earlier I get rid of water the night before. Next morning cups etc can be rinsed in sink and water let to run out as no fats or soap
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"As from 1st January 2020 all pitches that are not fully serviced will have been closed the use of wheeled trolleys, water and waste carriers, golf carts, childrens buggies, wheelbarrows, bicycles, scooters, motor cycles, quad bikes, skateboards, ride-on toys, roller skates, ice skates, skis, and any other wheeled transportation device other than tow vehicles and motor caravans will be prohibited on site."
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No rolling of waste and water containers.
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Perhaps you're a very light sleeper, TG.
Yes I am, I'd like not to be but its not going to happen.
Normally leave site between 9am and 10.15am.
Just as I'm thinking about getting up then
no point in trying to sleep after 9am as the wardens tractor is out and about by then.Seriously, when we are abroad I rarely hear our neighbours leave in a morning and have often woke to find not just 1 gone but 2 or 3. Can't say that is something that has happened in the UK.
I love being away in the van and often find it relaxing, just as it should be, however at times it can be annoying when folk just don't consider others.
Pet hates for me are, slamming doors, wastemasters, folk stopping outside your van to have a chat (at full volume) mobile phone users, why can't they just talk quietly and stay by their van, why do they have to keep walking up and down so everyone can hear what they are saying.
I know I'm grumpy, its because I don't get much sleep
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I’m afraid some things are a fact of life and we just have to put up with them, TG.
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It’s an age thing I reckon👍🏻. The older folk(some) are the less tolerant of others & their perceived bad habits they become. C&MC could have a rule that native Brits can only pitch up atwixt 2 overseas visitors only-thus ensuring perfect neighbours. . . .My work here is done😎
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Rocky are you insinuating I'm old
there was me thinking you were one of the nice peopleI’m afraid some things are a fact of life and we just have to put up with them, TG.
I know, strangely the longer I'm away in the MH the less these things bother me, maybe I should take Malcolm up on 'living on a campsite full time'
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I hope you and Malc will be very happy together, TG.
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