Living in a Caravan Vs Living in a house

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  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited March 2018 #122

    Whittaker, seasonal pitches cost just over £5 per night which is a lot cheaper than the £14 a night quoted in that post  for living in a house.

    The value of the house may go up but the capital tied up doesn't give you income to live on unless you release it by selling.

  • brue
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    edited March 2018 #123

    If places like Northbrook Farm come to the end of leases there will be less seasonal pitch availability. Using touring sites to live on cheaply is a short term solution to  long term living in a van.

  • Whittakerr
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    edited March 2018 #125

    And whats that got to do with fictional monthly mortgage payments and return on investments?

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #127

    Just to answer one of your spurious questions M, We paid our mortgage off in 1979 and our house is now worth about 39 times the value of the purchase price.  How does that effect the running costs after all you had to buy your car and caravan and I can assure you that you paid more for them than I paid for my bricks and mortar! 

    Our heating system is 39 years old and the timer has stopped working, so system is switch to on and working fine.  This will be the second timer we have had to buy the first one cost less than £20 and this on will cost less than £50.  I think that is considerably less than the 2 x a/c warranty jobs you had done.  When the weather improves I will walk less than a mile (no cost) buy the part and fit it.  You on the other hand had to drive a couple of hundred miles both ways towing the van then stay over (site fees or motorway parking fees) for your free warranty work

  • Milothedog
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    edited March 2018 #128

    It's minus 5 and has been snowing all night and still is. The house is nice and warm and I'm looking out the conservatory window watching the birds taking turns at the feeder. I won't have to move the house in the next few weeks and the sink waste is draining away without any issues and we have an endless supply of hot & cold water at the taps. Think I'll stick with living in my house as opposed to a life on the open road.cool

  • Justus2
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    edited March 2018 #129

     You are not mistaken Goldie you are correct.

    http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ30

    Do I need a licence for my mobile home or caravan?

    You'll need to buy a TV Licence for your static caravan, mobile home or moveable chalet if:

    anyone, at the same time, is watching or recording live TV on any channel or watching or downloading BBC programmes on iPlayer at your main licensed address
    the caravan or mobile home is your main residence

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #130

    the caravan or mobile home is your main residence
     

    Not the main licensed address however. Yes there probably should be a license purchased but I very much doubt that those going off in a caravan and leaving a family member at home would consider to do so

  • cariadon
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    edited March 2018 #131

    Who are you Malcolm trying to convince that living in a Caravan is better, I think you are trying to convince yourself. 

     

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2018 #132

    Maybe not:

    You don’t need a separate TV Licence for, Quote:

    Boats, touring caravans or vehicles as they’re already covered by your main home’s TV Licence. Unquote.

    As said person lives in a 'Touring Caravan' and has to tour due to regulations, it all hinges on the wording of "main home" with said person.

  • cariadon
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    edited March 2018 #133

    Meheven said As said person lives in a 'Touring Caravan' and has to tour due to regulations, it all hinges on the wording of "main home"

    The caravan is his main home, as he has said so often on this and other threads.

     

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2018 #134

    Doesn't matter what he said, he can say whatever he fancies, he can call it Buckingham Palace. It is what the correct interpretation of 'main home' is as far as the TV broadcasting is concerned.

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2018 #135

    The "other" address according to Ms posts is being used for a home" address as there is a "rent book"undecided

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited March 2018 #136

    Exactly!  Also, even if the the tv was switched on in the house, how would they know that a caravan tv associated with that property is being used at the same time and how would they know where the caravan was parked to even check that? If there was such a rule, it would be impossible to enforce, so not something that anyone would worry unduly about when in their caravan, especially if it's a touring caravan on a touring site! The TV detector van would need to be in two places at the same time to find out and that would be impossible.

  • Metheven
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    edited March 2018 #137

    As I said, it all hinges on the TV broadcastings interpretation of 'main home'.

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #138

    His cousin pays the tv licence in his own house according to Malcom, so presumably Malc will ring his cousin to determine he isn’t using the house TV so He can put on the TV in the caravan📞📺📺👍

    Personally  I can’t see the TV licensing authorities being enamoured with the situation.👎🏻 

    I may, of course, misunderstood the situation.🙄

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #139

    Naive comes to mind

  • Malcolm Mehta
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    edited March 2018 #140

    Exactly my scenario, Metheven. My caravan is a touring caravan on a touring site and there's a tv licence at the house address. So I don't need a separate tv licence for the caravan, which is another cost saving compared to living in a house!

    I think that answers your question, Goldie!

  • JVB66
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    edited March 2018 #141

    I have checked our tv licence and it seems to be worded that only one licence is req which also covers another tv in a when you are away from main residence

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited March 2018 #142

    I can’t imagine the Beeb spending resources tracking down a single individual either. Although I dare say some posters would enjoy the schadenfreude☹️

  • Milothedog
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    edited March 2018 #143

    The more I read about this Caravan Vs House business the more I get put off the idea wink  It seems to me a big part of it is living on the edge of the law and seeing what you can get away with. I really don't fancy having to live constantly having to look over my shoulder cool

    Anyone know when the toilet cassette in a house need emptying ? we having been using both house toilets for 39 years now and they still don't seem to have filled up ?  Just my luck it'll be today and I'll have go out in this awful weather to deal with itfrown

  • Oneputt
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    edited March 2018 #144

    The BBC receive the licence fee but the licensing authority is a government department and I think we would all be surprised at their level of technology.

    Don’t understand R2B why you would think I or anyone else would take pleasure in Malcolm getting into trouble, I thought the vast majority of posts were aimed at trying to stop him hurting himself and Mrs M.

  • brue
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    edited March 2018 #145

    Thanks Oneputt, Rocky can count me out of the schadenfreude bit too. 

    Just now lots of people on site are frozen up and to live like this would not be my choice at all. Some would think "schadenfreude" for attempting it even on a temporary basis but there you go, the hardy British camper gives it a go.(But for me not full time!)

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #146

    In most parts of the UK the situation of not being able to use water and waste without problem when on site is rare. Probably 2 weeks in 400 weeks. At this time of year in the present weather I would opt for a full facility site. Quite capable of using a 4pt jug in caravan and the toilet block for ablutions etc. Not a real hardship for me

  • brue
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    edited March 2018 #147

    Just posted on another thread about a totally frozen van, no loo, no water etc. It's quite a trek across the slippery snow for some, not complaining but the UK does sometimes have lengthy cold or wet  snaps. Those spending time abroad might fare better.

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #148

    Our loo would not freeze with the heating on and that is for sure. 

  • EasyT
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    edited March 2018 #149

    could not see our loo freezing with the heating on

  • cariadon
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    edited March 2018 #150

    it would mean having to wear wellingtons instead of crocs if the snow was deep.

  • KjellNN
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    edited March 2018 #151

    so it has thawed out since yesterday?  that is fortunate!  

     

    " The warden came over to tell us that the site taps are all frozen except one tap in a sunnier part of the site, so we can still get water. However, the water in the Aquaroll froze so we simply switched over to using the onboard tank. So no problem getting water through the taps in our caravan because the onboard tank is working fine. I was even able to have a shower this morning. The only concern was whether the water would drain from the shower base.Fortunately, it drained without any problem at all. However, the sink and washbasin drains are still blocked with ice. "