Wet and soggy

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  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #32

    So you have "upped" your first reply to getting somewhere near the standards required for a constant use on and off hardstandwink

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #33

    As somebody who was involved in highway design and construction for much of my working life very little more should generally be required on decent ground. Maybe a couple more inches given the amount of usage and heavier weights of some outfits. 

  • Randomcamper
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    edited February 2018 #34

    In my first reply I hadn't really thought anyone would need me to explain how to construct a H/S.....wink

    But my point, is that upscaling things a bit by use of some machinery would drastically speed up the construction process....

    And for interest it cost me about £200 for the hardcore, the chippings and the hire of a whacker, all from Jewsons, and a skip to take away the excess soil,  plus a couple of beers for my lad..wink

    Mechanise the process and it could be done quickly & cheaply.  At perhaps £30 a night that the club sell the pitch for, if that lets them extend the season a bit, then it's a quick return on capital spent....

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #35

    The Hardstands from what i have seen installed are dug quite deep about 10inches?then the ground is "treated"with a weedkiller? before a layer of thick weed supressor "canvas",then a lorry load of crushed stone hoggin per two hardstands which is rolled with vibrator roller,then a pressure treated long life wooden sarround installed ,then a layer of stone or granite chippings (to local planning requirements) followed by the grassed finger areas being finished with topsoil and reseeded

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #36

    Sounds about right JVB. Off the cuff I would have reckoned on 8'' of sub base (stone hardcore - limestone around Cheshire) topped with 1 or 2'' of chippings/gravel. The weed suppressant matting was probably a layer of Terram or similar woven construction barrier to stop the stone from migrating.

    The soiled area for planting should ideally be 150mm thick top soil and no less than around 100mm to support decent growth and to avoid drying out too much in dry weather.

    In similar situations I always specified pressure treated 1.5'' x 4'' fence rails as edging as more substantial to work with and helped operatives get a nice straight edge without too many support stakes 

  • DSB
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    edited February 2018 #37

    As a caravanners, I agree!!  wink

    David

  • DSB
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    edited February 2018 #38

    I guess it could be that the Club are installing more serviced pitched because that's what many people look For, and they can sell them.

    David

  • Randomcamper
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    edited February 2018 #39

    More or less as I've described then JVB.......?.....wink

    The "pressure treated long life" bits of wood are available in B&Q for about £2.50 per 6 or 8 foot length last time I looked, the "topsoil" will be saved from the pitch & if you cut the turf carefully you can re-use this for the "fingers". If you make a mess of it Asda were selling boxes of economy grass seed for about £3 last year...

    This is not a difficult or expensive project however you describe it.....wink

  • EmilysDad
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    edited February 2018 #40

    But unfortunately, more often than not, they do look like car parks.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #41

    And not "cheap " to install when contractors have to be involved,a lot of cc site works are carried out i think (by the vehicles seen on sites) by a specialist firm in South Gloucestershire,and a specialist electrical contractor from Lincolnshire

  • KeefySher
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    edited February 2018 #42

    Prefer grass pitches, even moreso serviced grass pitches (not available on the CAMC network), where ground/weather conditions facilitate their use.

    In 9 years of motorhome ownership, never got caught out with soggy pitches. Nor with the caravan in recent times.

    Have a fair few bent rock pegs from CAMC hardstanding pitches where recent works have created HS pitches. Perhaps the contractors thought they were constructing car parks.

    In the MH days there was a site in Cornwall that had the plastic mesh that worked well for many many years on annual visits.

    The old fashioned con blocks with soil infill and grass might be a good method to give a greenfield effect with ability to peg into soil. Muck out to same depth, weed treat and infill with scalpings to leave depth of block, backfill blocks and compact with top soil, seed and let it grow.

    Might be worth a trial, say at a newly acquired site where pitch modification may be required.

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2018 #43

    If only car parks were like club siteswink,but then with the "growth" in Camping Cars cool

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2018 #44

    I am out of touch with prices but would guess around £20 a sq metre