AdBlue
Hi we get our Bailey MH soon and we need to put something called AdBlue into it!!! Which prior to ordered our MH I've never heard of.
I've seen it in Halfords at £14 for 10 litres. How often will I need to fill the AdBlue tank? Is it something I need to take with me or is it a long term thing?
Thanks
Comments
-
short answer, never.....it should last till your service...
your van is on a Peugeot base, my dad has a new Peugeot Teepee and asked the same question, it lasts for many many miles, far more than he will do and, i suspect, more than most motorhomers will do.
from their website.....
"AdBlue® needs to be topped up approximately every 12,500 miles. For most drivers this will be carried out as part of your Scheduled Service. However, the maximum range of a tank of AdBlue® can vary depending on your driving style."
0 -
Current van and previous van had an Ad Blue tank, never had to fill it up as BoleroBoy says, its taken care of at the service time. If however you do more than 12.500miles between services you can easily top it up, its nothing more than like adding windscreen washer fluid. You can buy the 10L containers or some filling stations have it on a pump the same as petrol or diesel but normally at the HGV section.
0 -
If you have an Esso or BP station close by you the 10 litre containers usually come with a funnel (not all containers do). I also have bought it in the past for about £12.
Our Audi drinks 12 litres every 3,500 miles and in the car dealership I work we are finding some Citroen cars are using a similar amount every 3,000 miles.
Always pays to have a cannister in the garage or shed. On our Audi you get a count down from 1,500 miles and if it's not re-filled it cannot be started until you do fill it.
0 -
Cheapest I have found is Morrisons.
0 -
The amounts for the Audi and Citroen quoted above are far in excess of what our Mercedes has used so far. In 9000` of which 4000` was towing on continent we`ve used 10Ltrs.
Bear in mind Ad Blue only has a life span of two years and the tank should be drained every second service, according to the handbook exceeding these limits can result in damage to the exhaust system. You`ll see the use by date on bottles if you purchase from Halfords I looked once and the use by date was already four months gone. The most cost effective way of topping up is at the pumps, on the continent you find Ad Blue pumps at the car refill points. Using the HGV refill points is not recommended due to the speed of the fill. Our own car gives the approximate mileage that can be driven on the Ad Blue remaining in tank. As per previous post if the amount drops below 1-2Ltrs if you turn off the engine it will not restart.
We have`nt had any problems with it
0 -
We are getting a new Euro 6 Citroen Relay based PVC in the Spring (same engine as Peugeot Boxer) which will indeed use AdBlue to make it Euro 6 compliant.
New Fiat Ducatos have different engines using different technology and don't need AdBlue but their mid sized engine is 150bhp as opposed to 160 in the Peugeot/Citroen.
The Adblue Tank holds 15 litres and the handbook gives no guidance about how long that will last but our local dealer suggests about 8000 miles. Guidance in your handbook will take you through how an interim low level warning followed by a "permanent" warning will be displayed as the level falls. According to the Citroen Relay handbook the vehicle is not actually immobilised until the AdBlue reaches zero (but I wont be experimenting to see if that is right) . The reason for immobilisation is that the vehicle no longer meets it Euro 6 emission criteria. It needs 3.8 litres of AdBlue to restart i.e. quite a bit to carry so another reason to avoid running out. Personally I think I will be topping up every 3000 miles or so.
Of course for some low mileage users it will will just be something done at annual vehicle service but again main service intervals at two years mean that even lower milage users could run out between services. You should observe the specific guidance about draining down in your vehicle maintenance handbook but some sources suggest a shelf life of 18 months.
0 -
I get about 6500 miles in my Touareg (3 litre) before the warning message to top-up comes on. I tried filling up at my local service station but there is some sort of interlock on the pump nozzle that prevents it discharging into a container or tank not fitted with the appropriate valve. I bought a filling kit (about £10) and using the 10 litre containers, it's a very easy job to fill up. My dealer doesn't include topping-up the Adblue in a normal service and is a chargeable extra for which you pay well over the odds.
0 -
Some friends of ours have a Volvo convertible and they had a fault light that was found to be low Add Blue the Volvo dealer workshop advised that a lot depend on how vehicle is driven,and the size of the tank as some like theirs had quite small tanks
0 -
My understanding is that the amount of Adblue consumed is affected by the loading put on the engine, so the ECU calls up the required level of injection, and the amount of reliance the engine design places on the alternative technology to control NOx, ie EGR.
With the hassle I can put down to EGR, then the more the designers lean towards Adblue injection and away from EGR technology the better. Almost anything is worth a try to avoid high levels of EGR technology from my point of view.
My Disco 4 left the showroom with an indicated 13 k miles of Adblue, now at 4100 miles, its indicating 11ks worth left so will get to its annual service that does include replenishment. Being so frugal hints it could still have a significant level of that awful EGR technology
. Mileage was 50% towing and near zero of urban type driving.0 -
As an update, we've now had our MH for 11 months & 6,500 miles. The Adblue warning light has just come on which is sooner than I expected in mileage terms. I can only assume than when the dealer did the PDI they didn't fill the adblue tank up.
Anyway it was very easier to refill & I'm not expecting to have to do it again for 12 months. Also the adblue isn't blue its clear
0 -
I believe adblue is corrosive to metal and you should take care when adding to any vehicle. always wipe any spills immediately.
The raw material, urea, even occurs naturally in our digestive system. However, we strongly dissuade you to ingest AdBlue or inhale AdBlue vapors, due to the risk of an allergic reaction. AdBlue is corrosive and can dissolve materials that are not listed as AdBlue proof in ISO 22241.
AdBlue - Halfords0 -
BVM, our Boxer needed refilling at 10k miles. Again, that assumes it was full beforehand.
0 -
Our motorhome is on the 2017 Ford Transit 170 EuroVI cab, which as an aside we are more than delighted with, comfy, great drive and plenty of power. Adblue tank is 21 litres. Adblue warning light comes on at approx 1700 miles (plus a countdown of mileage till empty) and takes a full 10 litre top up. We've done nearly 6,000 miles now and the warning light coming on at approx 1700 miles since last top up seems fairly consistant. Spoken to other Ford Transit 170 motorhomers and they have commented theirs are similar.
0 -
I have just bought a new WildAx Pulsar with the latest 2.2 Euro diesel engine. Its only done 920 miles, 300 of which was a by road delivery, but in that time it's used in excess of 20 litres of Adblue which I've had to put in (not sure how much the manufacturers put in for delivery) and it has gone into recovery mode once with the AdBlue warning light coming on.
I've taken it to the Citroen dealers and they've run their diagnostics and say there's no fault, but there has to be as the tank is only half full after I've just added another 6 litres. Has anyone had the same problem? To use it I now carry more AdBlue than water, my calculations show it's using 1 litre of AdBlue every 26 miles and I drive it very steadily.
All advice appreciated
0 -
Our Fiat was the same on collection from the dealer. In fact no diesel, no gas and very little AdBlue in the tanks. Shocking! Once the fault light was reset and the level topped up we had no more trouble other than an exhaust gas sensor but that's another matter.
I suggest you see how it goes on and if it still drinks AdBlue, waltz it back to Citroen under warranty. I know the dealer you bought the van from is ultimately responsible but your chances of getting a MH dealer to sort a base vehicle fault are very slim. You should make them aware though.
0 -
Cheapest Adblu I have found was at our local Wilko,.During Lockdown I mistakenly ran the engine on tickover for an extended period to recharge the batteries,It upset the NOx sensor and brought up the "check adblu" on the dash.Best to drive the vehicle as the exhaust does not get hot enough on tickover= lesson learned.Peugeot Boxer 160 bhp model FYI.Avoid overfilling as it takes the surface sheen off plastics as it dries-another lesson learned.I only top up if setting off on an extended tour and finished up giving most of my spare to our son who is a high mileage driver.My first vehicle with this system so I was a bit apprehensive about it initially and fussed far too much but I have got used to it now.Just need to be able to do some "proper" touring again post Covid etc.Another story entirely.....
0 -
If your calculation about Adblue consumption of 26 miles per litre is right then something is far wrong. Advise the selling dealer in writing that there is a problem and ask them to fix it. Do not go direct to Citroen. Certainly the Adblue consumption should be hundreds of miles per litre (I reckon about 500) but it depends on driving style and other factors. Keep on top of this as time and your legal rights slip away. Remember as a member of the club you are entitled to use the free legal helpline.
0 -
I top my AdBlue up after every trip.
The easiest way I have found is by using an empty water bottle with the pull up type lid.
Fill this from the AdBlue 5l bottle with a funnel, and then you can top your tank up without spillages as you squeeze the AdBlue into the tank.
I keep the bottle in my Gas Locker........just in case!
0 -
I find that using the spout that comes with the Adblue is easiest. It's a press fit into the top of the container & a push fit into the filler neck.of my car .... but I've only ever filled my car with Adblue & not seen the filling arrangements of other vehicles.
0 -
My motorhome has now done just over 4600 miles and I was wondering whether to take the bull by the horns and top up the AdBlue before I get the warning light? Does anyone know whether AdBlue goes off? I did purchase a container when I got the van in 2019 and I am just wondering whether I should buy a new bottle, its hardly a kings ransom!
David
0 -
Not 100% certain but i think AdBlue has a shelf life of 18-24 months.
0 -
Yes, it does 'go off'. An internet search revealed that it has a shelf life of 12-24 months depending on temperature. Only this morning I dumped some that was just over 12 months old.
The first warning light gives you several hundred miles notice before you’re in deep trouble so there’s no immediate rush.
Some AdBlue containers don’t have a long enough spout to open the flap inside the filler of the van and then you need to improvise with something like a funnel.
0
