Why does it have to be so difficult to book.....

KjellNN
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edited February 2018 in Certificated Locations #1

We are almost finished planning and booking a couple of trips this year and are using more CLs due to costs.

Some CLs have been really easy to book, we sent an e mail, they replied promptly, we  confirmed....job done.

But  a few seem  to want to make booking more difficult or complicated.

One gave an e mail for contact, and had a website, but insisted that we ring them to book, and wanted a 50% deposit, which was not mentioned at all in their details.

Another also gave an e mail for contact, but no website link.  They replied after a short delay saying  they had availability, but that to book we must either phone, when no deposit would be required, or book via their website, which would ask for a deposit.

 By the time they replied, we had found their website, but the booking system was not easy to understand so we had decided to wait for the reply to our e mail.

On another, the details on here said they had hardstandings, but turns out they do not, and we also noticed one which appeared to have all sorts of facilities but turned out to be a very basic site!

We are still waiting for one to reply to our e mail.

It is all rather frustrating!   frown

 

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  • Wherenext
    Wherenext Club Member Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2018 #2

    Yes, a lot of them don't help themselves do they, Kj?

    Our recent trip away only needed 3 cls but we had problems with 2 of them, one not returning a message left on an answerphone (why do people have these things if they don't check them?) and the other not replying to an email, both chased up via more phone calls.

     I've always found that a phone call trumps most other ways unless the owner knows how to run their own website well.

  • Justus2
    Justus2 Forum Participant Posts: 897
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    edited February 2018 #3

    I emailed a CL once, but had received no reply over a week later so I rang them. I mentioned the lack of reply to me email. Oh we don't do email she said, my son insisted we had one so he did it, but we never use it . sealed 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited February 2018 #4

    Phone call is always easier. You can ask the relevent questions as well before booking. I wouldnt blame the CL owners for incorrect details in handbook or on website. We have come across CLs listed in a totally different location to where they actually are!

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,636
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    edited February 2018 #5

    We've been fortunate then with our bookings recently. For our next trip a couple of phone calls, and 2 e-mails which were responded to within 18 hrs have secured us a pitch on each of the 4 sites. A couple wanted deposits, one of 1 night's fee and done over the phone, and the second for 2 night's fee and could have been by bank transfer or cheque, which we used.

    Would you be willing to highlight the sites which had incorrect info on the CC's web site, Kjell?

     

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2018 #6

    What's most annoying is when you leave a message on an answerphone and then not get a response....as has happened to us.

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2018 #7

    The one that was only basic was Wykeham Lakes, the one that does not have any HSs was Stretton Lakes.

  • brue
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    edited February 2018 #8

    Just had to pay up for all three days booked at a CL, but at least they responded promptly. They do vary a lot but no doubt many CL owners are busy doing other things, you need to be patient with some. smile

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2018 #9

    Thanks, Kjell. When are you down in Lincolnshire?

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2018 #10

    Yes, can understand farm CLs and similar taking a day or two, but if it is a pub, hotel or country park, I would expect thm to be more on the ball.

    No problem with a deposit, we have paid several, but like to know about it beforehand.

    Some really put very minimal details on their listing, and often no pictures.

    We tend to avoid those with no details, or without pictures, and those with no or very few reviews.

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,636
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    edited February 2018 #11

    We're very similar in our choises, as we too like to view what the site is like, but will visit one if there are decent reviews or a recommendation from friends or other posters on CT.

  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2018 #12

    Had to consult my list!.......earlyish in June.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited February 2018 #13

    Ah well we'll have been and gone well before then. Hopefully we'll get a H/S pitch at Diamond House next month.

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2018 #14

    We have used a few CLs previously, but this year we are using far more as we have to  be away partly in the school holidays and Club sites are in several cases just far to pricey for our budget.

    Garlieston and Chirk are not too bad in June, and, for a couple of stopovers,  Thirsk (£14) costs no more than a CL  so they are booked.  For Easter we are using CCC sites as in Scotland Easter is not peak season so we also get the wrinkly discount.

    Same in June and up to 20th July, so we have splashed out on Derwentwater, which is quite expensive, and Haltwhistle, which is not expensive.

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2018 #15

    Bookings all made now.

    We have free calls at weekends so OH rang the one that wanted us to ring, they then needed 10 minutes to fire up the computer so took our number and rang back.  All booked quite quickly then, and, as per their original e mail  reply, no deposit requested.

    There was still one who had not replied to e mail after  a few days, so OH also rang them and booked successfully, price confirmed and no deposit requested.

    She did mention that she had e mailed, so that they would not be trying to book us twice, and the reply was along the lines of.....e mail....oh.....haven't looked at that recently!    yell

    I must say, if it is always this frustrating trying to sort consecutive bookings for a trip, I admire your perseverence Nellie!

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,636
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    edited February 2018 #16

    Kjell, I've plenty of time to sort things out, so it doesn't bother me too much if there's no response immediately. As it is I'm hoping to add an extra site into the list and see if I can delay the arrival at one site to fit it in. Hopefully I'll be able to do the change tomorrow, fingers crossed.

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2018 #17
    • OH is really getting into the CLs now!

    She has rung today, immediate answer, and booked a CL near Chester, so Lady Margarets Park will be getting cancelled.  Another £19.50 saved.   laughing

    Will actually save quite a bit more than that as we will not be taking the van as far off the route to our next stop, and it is 5 miles each way less to drive to visit our friends.

    However....much closer to retail opportunities,  so I can see the saving being used up quite quickly!

     

     

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2018 #18

    I'm going to delegate the booking to OH in future, she seems much better at it than me, plus her knowledge of the  geography of the UK is greater than mine, so working out which county or shire to search in for a CL comes easier to her.

  • BirchHillFarmCL
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    edited February 2018 #19

    We have an online booking system and I would be interested to hear your feedback on it.

    We are 9 miles from Lady Margaret's Park at Chirk and charge £12 including EHU.  There is no charge for using our Wi-Fi.

    Ian Kelly

    01691 622951
    Holiday@BirchHill.co.uk

    Birch Hill, The Cross, Ellesmere, Shropshire, SY12 0LP
    www.BirchHill.co.uk

    Birch Hill Farm - an award-winning hideaway in the beautiful lake-lands of Shropshire - exclusively for members of the Caravan and Motorhome Club

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,636
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    edited February 2018 #20

    Managed to book two more CLs and alter a date for a third. One took over two days to respond to an e-mail and we had to confirm our booking by phone while the other one took just one phone call. Neither asked for a deposit, as it happens. Only a couple more to book but we'll do that while we're away.

    Kjell, we did get into Diamond House so will be able to give you our impression of it.

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭
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    edited February 2018 #21

    Hi Ian,

    I looked at your CL last time we were going down to Chirk, looks really nice!

    Unfortunately you are even further away from our friends who live west of Ruthin, so we had to rule you out for that reason.  However we make it there one day as there is plenty to see in your area.

    Hope you have a good year.

  • neveramsure
    neveramsure Forum Participant Posts: 712
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    edited February 2018 #23

    We are going to Diamond House in May Nelliecool.

    I would also be grateful for your opinion of the site.

    We have booked 7 or 8 CLs for this year so far and each have a different booking system, one even wanted full payment up front.undecided

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,636
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    edited February 2018 #24

    Will do. I'll write a review and post it on both forums.

  • CholseyGrange
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    edited February 2018 #25

    David - I agree with everything you say.  Happens to us all the time! 

    Luckily most of our bookings now come online, where there is no room for error. Confirmations are sent as soon as we approve the online request and emails sent 4 days prior to arrival with arrival details. 

    If potential visitors want to have a chat to us, that's equally fine, but like most CL's we are running other businesses, so may not always be in.

    At £10/month for a booking system, it's the best investment we ever made.

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,636
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    edited February 2018 #26

    That's fine CG if you are computer savy but some of the site owners are not that well up with what can be obtained and rely purely on e-mails &/or phone calls. These too are fine if the CL owner use them fully but we've had a few occasions where booking inquiries have been made on both and still we've not had a response. Those sites are then add to our list of ones to avoid.

  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2018 #27

    Yes, agree.

    If a site gives an e mail address then we expect that they check it each day.  A reply within a couple of days is surely not too much to expect.

    If they do not want to do that then they should not give an e mail address.

    We are well into our 70s but have embraced things like e mail and on line booking, on line banking etc etc.

    We prefer not to phone as we have no calling plan, but weekend calls are free, so we do use that.

    OH does the calls and I would say that she has very clear speech, very little regional accent, and certainly does not talk quickly.  No CL owner would have a problem understanding her.

  • Supertractorman
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    Am afraid I am not the most computer literate but try and respond as fast as possible. Unfortunately my wife does not use the computer at all therefore whilst on line booking system would be good, my wife could not use it.  Also find that the majority of our repeat users like having a chat on the phone whilst making their booking if only to enquire about dogs and ducks and as we are Adults Only tend to prefer phone to computer if in the older bracket.  This year we are getting a lot of advance bookings so many folks are determined to get away whatever the weather is going to be.

    David

  • Tammygirl
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    edited February 2018 #29

    In the past we haven't used many CL's but that is now changing.

    The ones we have used before we send an email if we know that's their preferred method, some of them are quiet happy with a TEXT to their mobile phone.

    With new CL's if they don't have an online booking system I usually call them, its good to have a chat and get a feeling for the owner and the CL.

    We did send an email to an independent site last week, so far we've not had a reply frown

  • nelliethehooker
    nelliethehooker Club Member Posts: 13,636
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    edited February 2018 #30

    We did send an email to an independent site last week, so far we've not had a reply.

    TG just a thought but have you had a look on your Spam folder? I've found that some responses from sites I've sent an enquiry to have ended up in there.

     

  • dmiller555
    dmiller555 Forum Participant Posts: 717
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    edited February 2018 #31

    I must admit that if a site doesn't have an on-line booking system I generally give them a miss.

    I have found that more sites do now require a booking fee and quite a few demand full payment in advance. So I may yet overcome my aversion to booking by phone.