Marshals names & addresses

bill
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edited January 2018 in Centre News & Rallies #1

I was just interested how many Centres were putting names & addresses of marshals in this years rally books/lists.

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  • JVB66
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    edited January 2018 #2

    Under data protection I would think it could be a bit iffy for any to doit?

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #3

    That depends on the Marshals.

  • Boff
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    edited January 2018 #4

    Why?   Because how are you going to book a rally w/o contact details.  Real world everyone’s details are all over the web. 

  • bill
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    edited January 2018 #5

    Centres have always been nervous to print marshals addresses in the past for security reasons but I would have thought that with the upgrading of the Data Protection Act in 2017 they would now be ultra cautious for fear of prosecution. 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #6

    I don't rally but would have thought by phone or email

  • Kennine
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    edited January 2018 #7

    Don't see any reason why their details should not be available. They have volunteered to take on the role of rally organisation and with that goes the need to be contacted.

    cool

     

     

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #8

    That only requires an e-mail address or contact through a web page link or phone, preferably mobile.

  • huskydog
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    edited January 2018 #9

    It all seems a bit secret squirrel wink

  • Boff
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    edited January 2018 #10

    Bit difficult to send a cheque by email.  

  • Navigateur
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    edited January 2018 #11

    Better send two as cheques will not be available for long now!

    Publishing the rally dates and the likely vacant address is something of an invitation to burglars.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #12

    Indeed but that is not necessarily a problem that cannot be resolved. A few days ago I sent about £50 of surplus computer inks to a member of a forum that OH runs with my help. 20 cartridges. They paid postage and £10 donation towards the sites annual server fees. The payment was made by transfer to a designated account that I use for similar purposes. Used the same method when helping a neighbour to sell things. Could have just as easily had the money be paid in at a bank to my account. Also after contact by phone I could have given out my address to one individual rather than the 'world'

     

  • Boff
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    edited January 2018 #13

    Don’t want to be rude.  But most of the comments on here are theoretical.  Mine are practical.  So yes my name and address is published in our Rally brochure which has a limited distribution and no I don’t loose any sleep over it.    If you worry that much security a caravan missing from the drive is going to be a much bigger hint than a name in a Rally book. 

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #14

    I don't worry in the least Boff. However I thought we were talking about internet usage.

    I am happy to post when I will be away and the fact that there is probably a couple of hundred in fivers left in my sock drawer and probably half of that in front room cabinet to pay window cleaner, lawn cutting etc. I am happy to do this on open forum as my location is not revealed beyond my living in wales and near to Chester.

     

  • bill
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    edited January 2018 #15

    Being contacted is not the issue it's printing the address.  We have always printed addresses in the past but made it very clear to members how to dispose of their rally books securely at the end of the season.

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #16

    Bill, for our centre I use the email address to make initial contact and the address is sent to me, then I forward the rally booking form and deposit. A  recent contact let me know the rally was nearly full so I knew I had to get cracking! When I read the rally pages on here and look at the different web sites I realise the various centres all have their own ways of doing things. smile

  • bill
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    edited January 2018 #17

    I agree that is how I operate.  Although it will upset the non computer members I assume that on-line booking for every rally is the future which I know some Centres operate.

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #18

    There is also the phone but I rarely use it to avoid disturbing people but that's the alternative for non internet users.

  • EasyT
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    edited January 2018 #19

    Sounds sensible

  • brue
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    edited January 2018 #20

    It works OK, it would be easier to have the address, but it's not a big problem. Rallies are open to all, centre and non centre members and it's up to individual centres how they operate.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2018 #21

    As has been alluded too up thread, Data Protection legislation is being updated and data lists, electronic or not, now fall within its remit. We are all going to have to jump through yet more legislative hoops now.

  • Boff
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    edited January 2018 #22

    I agree it is down to the individual centre’s, actual the individual RO. But also you have to realistic about the real risk and the practicality a small centre might run 20 Rally’s a year our centre runs 100 hundred, so I wouldn’t want to be the single point of contact in that case.  Although cheques are sent to the Rally organisers they are written to the centre not the individual.  Cheques, are going to finish sometime, but their death has been delayed several times.  There should be obvious alternatives but when you start researching them, they can quickly become relatively expensive, PayPal is an example of this.  So anyone got any good suggestions please suggest away. 

  • bill
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    edited January 2018 #23

    I agree with you Boff and it is very obvious when we are away because of the van missing front the house !  I was more concerned about prosecutions under the Data Protection Act.  I have no problems with my address being circulated.

  • Firedragon
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    edited January 2018 #24

    The caravan missing from the driveway is not always an indicator that the house is empty, in fact we have always had ours out front and in 31 years - yes, we have been burgled - once, and even then the house was NOT empty, even the dog was home. Our next door neighbours have also been burgled once (not at the same time) and they don't even have a caravan ! 

    We have run many rallies over the years, prior to this digital age. Our address was always in the rally book which was only available on request by members but many centres would provide one if asked - sometimes without asking if you were a club member surprised ! Addresses were generally NOT included on the website though as that is a whole different audience.

    Alison

  • Orca1803
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    edited January 2018 #25

    We have addresses in the rally book but not on the website, new regulations come into force in May so no real need to change anything yet.