The Pointless Page
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It would be useful if EVs were allowed to use them at night in well lit areas instead of dipped headlights as this would save the battery thereby increasing the range on a single charge.
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3. Parking at night (248 to 252)
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You MUST NOT park on a road at night facing against the direction of the traffic flow unless in a recognised parking space. Laws CUR reg 101 & RVLR reg 24249
All vehicles MUST display parking lights when parked on a road or a lay-by on a road with a speed limit greater than 30 mph (48 km/h).
Law RVLR reg 24250
Cars, goods vehicles not exceeding 1525 kg unladen weight, invalid carriages, motorcycles and pedal cycles may be parked without lights on a road (or lay-by) with a speed limit of 30 mph (48 km/h) or less if they areat least 10 metres (32 feet) away from any junction, close to the kerb and facing in the direction of the traffic flow
in a recognised parking place or lay-by.
Other vehicles and trailers, and all vehicles with projecting loads,MUST NOT be left on a road at night without lights.
Laws RVLR reg 24 & CUR reg 82(7)251
Parking in fog. It is especially dangerous to park on the road in fog. If it is unavoidable, leave your parking lights or sidelights on.0 -
What about driving at night in well lit areas, is it really necessary to use dipped headlights thereby running down the battery of an EV and reducing its range when sidelights are sufficient to be seen?
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I wish more drivers thought about this, there are far too many idiots driving around with no or insufficient lights in poor visibility.
And as for the EU rules re daylight running lights......which idiot decided they should only be at the front? It is equally important that you can see cars ahead of you.
Malcolm.....sidelights are NEVER sufficient to be seen. And certainly not at night or in poor visibility.
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Yes but if you put your side lights on, you still have the daylight running lights as well as the rear red lights. These are sufficient lights for other drivers to see you, surely?
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Not all cars have the daylight running lights, only newer cars.
When you turn on your sidelights, the DRLs will go off as these sidelights are not intended to be used when driving. So to have proper lighting front and rear, you need to turn on what I would call the driving lights.
On older cars the sidelights are often extremely feeble.
The problem is that in for instance fog like we had recently, the idiots think that they do not need to do anything to be seen.
On a 3 mile trip to our daughter's house the other day OH counted 50 cars which had either only feeble sidelights or no lights at all on.
And in addition,there were quite a few that had only lights at the front due to the stupid DRL decision. You even see them driving like this in the dark!
So.....you will need to turn on decent lights at night.
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Have you actually checked that Malcolm? On my car the daylight running lights go off as soon as I switch to the normal lighting.
David
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The salesman told me that if I use headlights and windscreen wipers, it could reduce the range to between 60 to 70 miles, otherwise the range is 90 miles although the brochure says 99 miles.
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It's not pointless if it's going to save me £45 a week in the cost of buying unleaded petrol, is it? After all, it could save you money too, Oneputt, if and when you do decide to switch to an EV!
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That's right, EasyT. We can see from the various postings on here, how everyone is different!
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What is pointless Malcolm, is maintaining the fantasy it is going to save you £45 a week.
Based on figures you have supplied the EV is going to cost circa £10,000 more over the four years than keeping your current vehicle. That's without any down payment you may have to make. Your fuel saving based on £12,000 miles per annum, is more likely to be around £7000 at current prices. So plenty of scope there for inflation and who's to say the CC and others won't start charging for the electric over the next 4 years.
Well that was a pointless exercise.😂
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Saving could be as high as £8,000 Steve.
However in a couple of years I can see sites charging £2 or £3 a night to connect a car. If I was charging up on a CL I would look to contributing say an extra £15 a week to the owner and particularly during summer months.
As I said on another thread the killer for me would be having a car with insufficient range for my full days needs. Gatwick to Worthing and back must be over 65 miles. 15 miles for deliveries. Does not leave much capacity in the summer - not enough in the winter and that assumes no trips out with OH in the day. For me it simply does not stack up from a practical viewpoint. Is there all day long access to the dealership's charger I also wonder?
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When I dropped OH and grand sprogs at theatre ,on Friday, I went to our Kia dealer to enquire if the hibrid could be used for towing,and was assured that is could, until I checked, the kerbweight was fine,but when looking deeper in the brochure in the extra bit giving all the information, it showed tow weights and weight on the hook as zero for everything,so a salesman looking at his "bonus"is not a reliable source of info,so a pointless trip
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Your right JVB you only have to look on here over the years for people who say they ask the salesman a question and they either don't know or what they tell them turns out to baloney. I went into a showroom a couple of weeks ago and showed interest in a car that I would consider buying. cash only, the salesman tried everything to get me agree a PCP deal. He was just about to chain me on to the rack when I walked out. The commission they get on these PCP type deals must be massive that they don't want to sell cars for cash. Pointless to me
Just as an aside: In 2016, the total amount of car loans being carried by consumers was £58 billion, more than double what it was in 2012. To put that into perspective, a recent Italian bank bailout was only £15 billion.
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I would have no interest in PCP type deals either. If I was contemplating a EV that might be different however as with improvements to battery technology or simply extra atteriesit could be that i 3 years time I could have a car with less appeal because of range.
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There's access from at least 8 a.m. when the service centre opens to 6 p.m. when it closes.
On my existing car the daylight lights dim slightly when the side lights or headlights are switched on.
It's about 30 miles commute from Gatwick to where I work. So I will need to do the commute from a full charge and have two-thirds charge remaining on arrival, so a fast charge top-up at the dealer in Portslade would take less than an hour. So I can start work with a full charge. So I woukd be able to do up to 40 miles at work whilst still having enough charge left to get back to Gatwick.
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