Charging electric cars on Club sites.
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650cc is some lawn mower! That’s more like a fair size motorbike engine.
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Do all so called EV’s have the BS factor or are there actual ‘100%, no BS this really is an EV’ EV’s out there?🤔
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I’ve long suspected most of the lekky car hype could be BS to pacify the greens and earn brownie points. Hope I’m wrong.
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I Emailed the club on what is allowed and have had a reply ,stating the hybrid & EVs can be charged on club sites as long as it is via the LV 3pin socket,and not direct from the EHU,
Also a reply from Kia ref their Hybrids /EVs and they are not happy that other than dedicated charging outlets either Home or Commercial are used as other types may affect the vehicle charging electronics
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I just had a look at the link put up by Kennie. Quite informative. But the Internet seems to know what's up as the advert to the right - almost as much screen as the story - is for the Land Rover Discovery Sport ! ! !
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interesting - thanks
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Even when your wrong!!
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Relax OP the Govt will increase the tax on petrol to save the planet😤
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If electric battery vehicles is going to be the way forward when will we see the first Caravan Club site equiped with an electric tractor for awakening residents in the morning?
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I think there is a need to crack silent grass cutting.Possibly electric traction, laser cutting, electrostatic pickup, so no noisy engine, thrashing blade or blower fan blade noise; can see it would not be half the fun and make the job into a chore though
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Back in the 1960s we had electric buses in Glasgow. They were so quiet that they were known as "Silent Death".
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I remember them in Brighton and when they replaced them with diesel buses it was much longer journey as the "trolley" buses were much better at climbing the hills from the seafront to seven dials? where my Aunt and Uncle had a fresh fish and poultry shop,used to go to Brighton Station with Uncle to Meet train from Victoria that carried fish from Billingsgate fish market that could not be sourced locally (ramble over)
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Does that a Smart Electric could be charged overnight just by switching the fridge and heating over to gas?
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The Smart Electric has regenerative braking. The battery charges when slowing down apparently but I'm not sure how significant a charge you can get that way.
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If you have established that 10amps is sufficient for charging (?) then the time taken will depend on the size of the battery and how low it is to start with.
A full charge could take 9-10 hours.
You would also need to establish whether any fixed appliances were connected to the sockets breaker. To do this, turn on things like fridge, microwave, electric ring, air conditioning, charger and lights one at a time and then turn off the sockets breaker and see if any of them go off.
If you look closely at the breaker it will have marked on it the number of amps it will allow.
Anything else that is connected to the same breaker will have to be turned off to charge the car.
Your technical handbook may also shed some light on how things are connected as there is usually a wiring diagram in there.
Then you will have a max of 6 amps left to run things which are on a separate breaker.. You can then check the power each of those things takes to work out whether they can be used.
If you come back with your findings and figures, I can work it out for you if you are unsure.
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Full Electric vehicles are proliferating rapidly. Most manufacturers are planning to introduce proper EV's to their range. ( some already have )
Last night I had the pleasure of a run in a Tesla 75. It is a true super-car. Performance is instant and so smooth. The Tesla quick charging stations are conveniently situated and frequent. The Electronics are incredible.
Tesla has set the standard in Electric Vehicles. Other manufacturers will soon follow.
Would I tow a boat or Caravan with a proper EV ---- NO.
Would I tour with a small proper EV motorhome ---- Most definitely
Should either the CMC or the C&CC allow charging of EV's on a campsite pitch ---NO
The age of fossil fuel use in vehicles is definitely numbered.
K
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I still do not see electricity supplies to an electric vehicle being free from fossil fuel while that electricity comes from coal and gas fired power stations.
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+1, I can’t see that either unless the person charging the vehicle is producing their own energy using Solar & wind power only. If it comes from the national grid it will have a mix, in that mix will be fossil fuel derived energy. The rest is smoke & mirrors to ease consciences.
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How green are green tariffs?
There is a lot of debate around whether buying electricity from a green tariff means that your electricity is 100% renewable. All renewable electricity generated is connected to the grid, along with all the non-renewable generation, and we all draw electricity from that same pool. The carbon content of mains electricity is calculated on this basis, so it is not possible for one user to claim they are using carbon free electricity based on their electricity supplier.
This(above) is taken from the ‘Energy saving Trust’ website.
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At this very moment (24th December 17:16 hrs GMT) wind is poviding 23.73% of the load - UK National load plus whatever is going overseas on the various connectors. Not the same on a windless day when it can be virtually zero, and with nuclear and hydro already running at almost full output what makes up the difference? Coal and gas of course! Solar is at zero after dark.
So - for the electric vehicles to be charged using fossil-free electricity they should be charged only on windy days.
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Not forgetting Methane👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻😊
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I can't see that there's any harm in charging an EV on a campsite pitch if it's within the 16 amp output that's allowed. The overall electricity consumption would not increase because other electric appliances would have to be turned off or run on gas in order to make sufficient power available whilst charging. If you're having to use gas then you'll be paying extra for the gas.
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But gas is a fossil fuel! And the premise is that electric vehicles reduce the usage of fossil fuel. Now they are increasing it.
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Quote: "The overall electricity consumption would not increase because other electric appliances would have to be turned off or run on gas in order to make sufficient power available whilst charging."
That argument is seriously flawed as for most of the year high power draw appliances will only be on for short periods, boiling a kettle, heating up 10 litres in the boiler, whilst charging an EV is a multi-hour long consumer.
Even mid winter with space heating, awnings aside, the system will not be pulling high power continuously as a thermostat will cut and in out periodically for users not trying to achieve 26 plus C with the windows, door, and Heki wide open. Come mid summer the heating will not be on full blast for long.
For low power storage EVs doing the suggested 40 miles of running about then drain is going to be a modest £1 or so per day, but come the technology to tow then even 40 miles is going to add upwards of £3. The issue might not be destabalising at the moment but come a wholesale adoption of EV vehicles, it will be a very different picture. You simply can't replace all the energy provided via diesel and petrol and think supplying that with electricity comes without impact.
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