Discovery Sport experience

ktansdell
ktansdell Forum Participant Posts: 6
edited December 2017 in Towcars & Towing #1

New to caravanning, I am trying to decide which used 4x4 tow car to buy to pull a MTPLM 1439kg caravan.  I have read all the bad press about the Discovery Sport 2.2 L (reliability, electronics, build, etc.).  Can any members please share their experiences of the new Discovery 2.0L (SE Tech or HSE) to help me - good and bad.  It seems to be much better on economy and I am hoping that LR have sorted the electronics issues with the new version? (from Sep 2105).  Many thanks in anticipation.

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  • dwlgll20
    dwlgll20 Forum Participant Posts: 139
    edited December 2017 #2

    Been towing with a MY17 HSE 180 this year with the 2.0 engine. Overall very impressed a great tow car.

    Tow bar fitting, this isn’t as straight forward as it seems. If you need to get a tow bar fitted and have the 7 seater it can get expensive as extra parts may be needed. The exhaust system differs between the 5 and 7 seater which is further impacted upon if it has a underslung spare or inside spare (as standard it comes with an inflation kit). It’s worth getting some quotes, but make sure the fitters give the quote on your exact model. We’ve got the factory fitted heavy duty electronic tow bar with the tow pack which is great.

    Just some things to check out:
    B Pillar rattle which if you get requires extensive work.
    Oil dilution, pre June 2017 vehicles which have the service plan get free extra oil changes for the first five years. If used check it has the service plan otherwise it can get expensive. Check the in built computer which will show when next oil service is due.
    MPG nothing like Land Rover say, I’m getting on normal drives 40 (ish) mpg with towing a 1550kg van and lots in the car around 30mpg
    Small fuel tank, because of AdBlue tank?
    Poor in built sat nav (it loves B and narrow country roads, well it is a Land Rover). 

     

     

  • ktansdell
    ktansdell Forum Participant Posts: 6
    edited December 2017 #3

    Thanks dwlgll20.  Food for thought. I had already been quoted about £1,200 for a LR dealer to fit a towbar. Ouch. And I’ll look for remaining service plans. 

  • bill
    bill Forum Participant Posts: 388
    edited December 2017 #4

    If you go for the 2.0L engine, available from 2016, ensure that you get the 180 bhp version as the smaller power engine just does not tow well.

    Always prefer automatic gearboxes on LR's.

  • Vulcan
    Vulcan Forum Participant Posts: 670
    edited December 2017 #5

    Or even the 240HP in later models.

  • stephen p
    stephen p Forum Participant Posts: 194
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    edited December 2017 #6

    It may well be 2105 wink

  • MikeinaVan
    MikeinaVan Forum Participant Posts: 22
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    edited December 2017 #7

    Just to add something on towbars.

    Recently bought a low mileage (prob ex demonstrator) 2017 Disco Sport.

    Being old fashioned I definitely wanted a spare wheel. Some come with it, some do not. If a spare is supplied from the factory the exhaust layout is different, meaning it would be hard (and expensive!) to fit a spare later.

    Having the spare limits what towbars will fit. Genuine LR will not as far as I can tell unless you have the one with a sticky-out lump on the back.

    Two I found did fit OK and I went for one made by tow-trust.  That needs a small bumper cut but not obtrusive and most of the cutaway is in the small clip on rear panel so not horrendously expensive if you slip.

    Fitting is relatively straightforward but a bit worrying as all the rear bumper has to come off.  If you have fitted a towbar before you will be OK. You will need an 18mm socket (pref 6 sided) and a LONG bar to undo 2 bolts that hold the towing eye on, These are done up very VERY tight.

    Wiring is childsplay - just plugs in.

    If you look round https://www.discosportforums.co.uk/ you will find links to youtube videos of a towbar being removed and installed. That shows a car with no spare wheel but apart from the exhaust being different the process is the same.

    Tows our Abbey GTS 215 (1450kg) with little effort which is what I would expect.

    Oil dilution from DPF issues is the only concern I have - time will tell on that one.

    Mike

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2017 #8

    just off topic but we looked at the Discovery Sport but chose the Kia Sorrento. This daily Telegraph review might be of interest : 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AijVPpqlOtc

    Basically buy a Kia with your head, a Sport with your heart.

    The Kia's longer warranty (and more toys per £) together with biggest towing limit and Kia Volvo being this year most reliable makes according to JD power made us go with the Kia:

    The brands that have topped the reliability chart this year are Kia, Volvo and Skoda, while Land Rover, Audi and BMW occupy the bottom three places https://www.carwow.co.uk/best/most-reliable-cars-0493

    also the Sorrento's almost twin sister the Santa Fe comes with a substantial  (up to £6000) saving using the club's offer see 

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/membership/member-offers/Hyundai/

    Which ever car you buy have you looked at the carwow website?

  • ktansdell
    ktansdell Forum Participant Posts: 6
    edited December 2017 #9

    Many thanks for all the posts. It looks to me that when it comes to towcars, if you base a buying decision on looks, comfort, reliability and price, nothing scores highly on all four! Land Rover on the first two and Kia or Hyundai on the last two! What a nightmare. I thought choosing the caravan would be the hardest bit! 😉

  • davetommo
    davetommo Forum Participant Posts: 1,430
    edited December 2017 #10

    I have the 150 bhp engine, it tows like a dream

  • allanandjean
    allanandjean Forum Participant Posts: 2,401
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    edited December 2017 #11

    In regard to carwow would also recommend that you take a look, I have posted re this before,as they can supply new, to order, or stock cars.

    With no idea of your budget can't say if they will be able to get near secondhand prices but my new Q5 was less than my nearest dealer was asking for a s/h model with a lower spec.

    We knew what car the and minimum spec we wanted so it was just a case of getting the best deal.

  • kentman
    kentman Forum Participant Posts: 147
    edited December 2017 #12

    Have a 2.0 HSE. Towed a Bailey Unicorn until start of this year. Now have a Coachman VIP. Towed to Italy last year and was delighted with how the car towed. Also a very relaxing and comfortable solo car.

  • banjokat
    banjokat Forum Participant Posts: 13
    edited December 2017 #13

    The small fuel tank was the main reason we didn't get one. Had more vehicles to choose from as we didn't need seven seats though. 

  • Steve Scott
    Steve Scott Forum Participant Posts: 197
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    edited December 2017 #14

    Don't know the pros or cons of Discovery Sport just thought you may like to see this snap, at least the cars still on four wheels.

    Steve

     

  • iffajobsworthdoing
    iffajobsworthdoing Forum Participant Posts: 94
    edited December 2017 #15

    Looks a touch windy judging by the fella crouching down behind the door, probably fortunate it was a LR rather than some of the other 4x4's out there.

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
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    edited December 2017 #16

    Surely the size of the tank isn't that relevant 😞, it's the range that's relevant. One of my cars has a 35 litre tank with a range of around 300 miles, another has a tank size more than twice the size but its range is only around 450 miles

  • lornalou1
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    edited December 2017 #17

    have you ever waych the program "motorway patrol" about the job the police do. I remember one, that the police got a call that a car had broken down in the 3rd lane of motorway, when they got there it was a lady in a LR evoque and said she had just picked it up from dealer brand new 30mins ago and was on her way home when everything just stopped working and shut down. she got out the car and shut the door and nobody could get back in again even the dealer so the police had to drag it across the motorway with no steering and wait for a truck to lift and take back to dealers to sort. 30 mins old. WOW.

  • markmacd
    markmacd Forum Participant Posts: 42
    edited December 2017 #18

    Looking at moving from an Antara to a Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 V6. 

     

    Any experiences/feedback on towing, as look tops to me. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2017 #19
  • Bluemalaga
    Bluemalaga Forum Participant Posts: 936
    edited December 2017 #20

    Had 4 land rovers so far and you are correct, the Sat Nav is diabolical.

     

    Ktansdell

    Have you looked at the latest Skoda range, not the cars they used to be. The newer 4x4's may give you all you are looking for. I have been on sites this year where Skodas have been the very popular choice of fellow caravaners.

  • ktansdell
    ktansdell Forum Participant Posts: 6
    edited December 2017 #21

    Hi, thanks to all for your helpful comments.

    Lornalou1 - yes, this is precisely why I was asking for advice.  The LR salesmen say that it was the pre 2014 Discovery Sports which had electronics problems, and that they are sorted in the newer model.  Sales talk or truth?

    Bluemalaga - yes, I even looked at the new Skoda Kodiaq.  Gets a good magazine review.  Not sure how well it would do on a caravan site tough - more like a big estate car.

    All - interesting that I have now found two separate Landrover mechanics who tell me that if I want reliability I should be looking at 3 litre Discovery 4s.  The search continues!

     

     

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2017 #22

    thanks for posting back ktansdell. Good hunting

  • knilly
    knilly Forum Participant Posts: 62
    edited December 2017 #23

    Bought a 2017 180bhp se tech and tows my Pegasus 1500kg with no problems happy days

  • S-max Jonny
    S-max Jonny Forum Participant Posts: 81
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    edited December 2017 #24

    I have a 2016 model 2.0 Auto with factory fit detachable towbar.

    I tow a Coachman 640/6 and the car is an absolute rock as a towcar. The most stable car I have ever towed with.

    The small tank can be a problem if you forget to fill up - nearly ran out of fuel up in the Highlands. There are not many fuel stops between Glasgow and Onich !!

    My main gripe with the car is the useless auto box when driving solo - the old lag and sudden boost scenario. It is suppose to be a modern and technically wonderful box but I beg to differ.

    Reliability has been good,build quality ok but you have to constantly fill up the Ad blue.

  • KeefySher
    KeefySher Forum Participant Posts: 1,128
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    edited December 2017 #25

    How backward for a modern car to have to fill up the Ad Blue between services.

    With a Merc the tank is sufficient beyond services, the Ad Blue is included in a Service Plan.

    If you need to fill yourself this is a good tool to locate filling stations where you use an Ad Blue pump in place of decanting bottles:

    http://uk.air1.info/en/adblue-supply/adblue-filling/


    Put your postcode in and bob is your mothers brother

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited December 2017 #26

    A friend of ours has a Volvo with add blue tank which needs topping up at times,between services, as they have been advised it all depends on how the vehicle is driven as to how much add blue is used,

  • Tigi
    Tigi Forum Participant Posts: 1,038
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    edited December 2017 #27

    I did 8500` (including 2500` towing on continent) between the last years service and yesterdays and used slightly less than 50% the Ad Blue capacity in a Merc, topped up under the service plan. 

  • ktansdell
    ktansdell Forum Participant Posts: 6
    edited December 2017 #28

    Hi All. Have now put a deposit on a three year old Discovery 4.  Overkill for the caravan I know, but we chose it for comfort, reliability, power, safety and looks. Shame about the price! Hope I’ve made the right decision. 

  • Tirril
    Tirril Forum Participant Posts: 439
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    edited December 2017 #29

    Until changing to the Discovery Sport (180hp 2-0l) I towed a t/axle with the Discovery 4. Both cars are superb towing. I even had to tow a large motorhome off one wet CL. They are rock steady and effortless on hills. I averaged 30-32mpg solo and 26mpg towing a 1750 kg caravan with the D4. The running costs, especially servicing are higher with the D4 than the Sport as you would expect.  I am on my 5th LR over 15 years and all have been very reliable, just the usual service costs plus tyres and brake pads etc. I can't imagine changing to another marque whilst I'm caravanning.

  • ktansdell
    ktansdell Forum Participant Posts: 6
    edited December 2017 #30

    Thanks everybody.  I have taken delivery of my Discovery 4 and I now await the towing course and delivery of the caravan.  Definitely a case of overkill, as the LR salesman said that when Birmingham had all the snow recently, an articulated lorry arrived to deliver a load of cars, got  stuck and Land Rover towed the lorry out with a Discovery!  (hopefully not mine!)

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2017 #31

    Thanks for posting back. Enjoy your car.