Membership Fee Increase
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Being not for profit is a great benefit as the proceeds go back into the club rather than the pockets of shareholders. Shareholders would demand profits for themselves which would mean year on year rising costs to the customers overall and funds could easily drain away.
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To answer your last question - absolutely not
But when the club lobbies with other parties on our behalf (for example the MOT on caravans issue a few year back or with the NCC, or local authorities) it can use it's large membership numbers to give more credence to it's views, ie that it is representing a large number of people. The same with the CCC as well.
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But when the club lobbies with other parties on our behalf
But the have the Club ever taken caravan (or motorhome ) manufacturers to task over the shoddy products that they continually produce.
The CAMC primary role is to assist the industry to sell more units rather than better units, If you disagree with my comments then show me a CAMC list of the "driest caravans"
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I don't think the CAMC's primary role is to sell more units. Surely it is to provide Sites and pitches to like minded individuals who enjoy touring in a variety of outfits? Here and to assist in terms of touring abroad?
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Yes would agree.
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Quite agree the CAMC primary role is to provide sites
however Cornersteady mentioned "lobby other parties on our behalf" but I believe that is way behind their backing of the UK caravan industry and their inability/reluctance to "name and shame"
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The problem with naming and shaming is that you have to first have cast iron proof so that you can prove your case when you get sued in a court of law. That's difficult to come by when you are dealing with third party cases.
Having said that the club could do more than it appears to do by way of general criticism based on members feed back.
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You all seem to have the wrong end of the stick.
The club is run by a committee of people, as voted for by the members. That gives us all the right to ask, questions and receive answers, ie, the increases in subscriptions over the last few years.The club obviously feel that they don’t have to answer it. I find this very rude and unprofessional.
I want people in the committee we can talk to and they in turn, to explain their side. My withdrawal of membership has nothing to do with cost, it’s a vote of “No confidence” in the committee.
As for my £1 a week saving, it will be going into the charity box, where it will do more good.
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You all seem to have the wrong end of the stick.
The club is run by a committee of people, as voted for by the members. That gives us all the right to ask, questions and receive answers,
Not sure who got the wrong end of the stick.
As far as I can read, the Committee as voted by their members will make decisions they think are in the members and company's interest. If you want to question and receive answers you then go to the AGM.
Did you go to the AGM's and voice your opinions?
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I believe the club does lobby on our behalf, we're not having to pay MOT costs on our caravans in one example in part due to the club and the club works with the NCC and others on major issues that affect us all, such as safety or approved workshops.
I do not believe it should lobby manufactures as to the state of their products. To buy or not is our choice
I join a pie eating club, I would expect this club to review and warn me of good or bad pies but not to talk to the local pie shop?
BTW have you asked the club to lobby manufactures?
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It’s actually impossible to test overrun brakes as the forces acting on them at any given time cannot be predicted and that makes a test somewhat pointless. In much the same way as a pie cannot be tested for taste without sampling it in a real life situation.
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I think your generosity of your pound a week into a charity box is very admirable ,instead of continuing your membership,will of course also reduce your choice of areas in the uk,that you may wish to visit,unless of course you are willing to pay the add £12 per night
and no access to about an add 3000 places to stop
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I think you have a very blinked idea when talking about the UK leisure vehicle industry why should any club/organisation name and shame for what is considering the size of and the amount of vehicles sold,a tiny amount of people with "problems?"
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This thread actually prompted me to take a look at the Club's Leisure Vehicle user survey (boring I know, but it's raining heavily outside
). All I can say is that the Club and its members have confirmed my suspicions, and we shall be sticking with older, quality models for the time being! See, although the Club is getting some stick for not actively coming out and shouting to all and sundry about how poor the reliability of some models are, (would you actively savage the hand that feeds you?), it does let its survey and members offer some guidance!0 -
Almost, Pie in the Sky!
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I use CC sites and Cls but I factor in my membership fee when comparing with other commercials to work out value for money. As for profit, you can see from the Audited accounts and reserves that they price until the pips squeak. like every other organisation. The Ho function is now so removed from the members that they have no empathy for the "club structure".
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Not sure I understand the problem. £51.00 isn't even a pound a week to be a member. What other leisure club can you be a member of for that price. Gym's, golf clubs, tennis clubs are all vastly more that that.
£22.00 off season and £26.00 peak ( pitch and 2 adults) or there abouts is also pretty fair considering the quality of facilities and sites on offer. Most camc sites and facilities are far better quality than c&cc sites.
Stop whinging or leave.
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When our caravan is serviced the capability of the brakes shoes to move is obviously part of the service whereas, I would suggest that many of the caravans that are only used for 2 or 3 weeks a year are rarely serviced and could well be described as a potential danger.
A caravan MOT would at least ensure that the brake shoes move, the chassis is not rotten, the breakaway chain is in place etc.
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Really? As you said, it’s only your suggestion.
Demonstrating that the brake shoes move is not the same as proving the overrun system actually works.
Any MOT finding will only be applicable at the time of the test and will not necessarily have any bearing on the state of play 24 hours later.
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Any MOT finding will only be applicable at the time of the test and will not necessarily have any bearing on the state of play 24 hours later.
Absolutely true but the same applies to cars and motorhomes - are you saying those MOT's are a waste of time and money
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It does indeed also apply to motor vehicles.
You make what you like of it but "waste of time and money" are your words, not mine.
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An mot may pick up problem, but they should also be annually as with commercial vehicles from new, as an mot is done after three years and most company vehicles are on three year lease with far higher millage than the normal owner drivers and certainly higher than any c/van is likely to do in its lifetime
And before the argument of the lease vehicles are "serviced" a neighbour was allowed to keep his last company car when he retired,which had just finished its lease,when it was given an MOT it failed and was deemed unsafe to drive without a large amount of money spent on it,
PS are farm vehicles and trailers given MOTs?
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+1
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But you should, or people who suggest these things should, look at the real data before making such statements or decisions. The accident rate for caravans is about 0.08% (according to government statistics). To put that into perspective, that means that caravans are involved in not 1 in a hundred accidents - that would one 1%, not 1 in thousand (0.1%) but 8 in every ten thousand accidents. The government viewpoint was that such low numbers would not merit a caravan MOT.
Also this would mean that every single caravan would need it's own centrally held 'registration number', more cost to the tax payer which you would be no doubt willing to pay perhaps from your saving of not not joining the club.
I suppose caravan users may have gone for this but perversely all those farm trailers across the UK and the EU were somehow exempt.
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And I suspect that many (most?) of those small number of caravan accidents relate to stability issues of the caravan whilst being towed. Not something that could be tested during an MOT.
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I would just like to share this with members , my nephew is a Traffic cop in the East Midlands (Derbyshire) he tells me that 95% of caravan related incidents he's attended over several years on duty are wheel or tyre related .
Loose wheel nuts & tyre blow outs or sudden deflation are the main culprits.👍
I think I mentioned this on a thread months ago .
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