Pitch Prices 2018
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Yes, why not give a decent reduction mid week low season? Wardens are still there, still need to be paid whether there is any income or not. Some income, enough to cover costs and a modest profit, would be better than none.
No need for silly prices, just a decent reduction. The current mid week discounts, which are not by any means on all sites, only offer a reduction on the pitch fee, which is generally smaller than the per head fee. You will be lucky if you get a £3.50 reduction.
No need to offer discounts on the so called "honeypot sites".
We often see pensioner couples in older outfits on sites low season. They have probably had the outfits many years, cannot afford a new one, but still want to enjoy caravanning.
We frequently see couples where one of them is not in the best of health, need the disabled facilities offered by a Club site, a CL may not be suitable.
The Club should be looking to keep costs down by not upgrading sites unnecessarily, there have been several comments lately where people have expressed surprise that sites they thought fine are being closed for long periods for an upgrade, how much income is being lost by doing that?
IMO, Club sites should be of a good standard, but not luxurious.
And yes, there should be options for reduced membership fees too by opting out of the magazine and the sites handbook.
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I think you should get the membership fee bit lower if you opt out of the magazine I don;t want it not much of interest to me ,the min wage is going up but bit lower next year than they had said it would but as I'm a cleaner only do jobs with short hours and I not do 40 hours in a week
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For next year and two adults. If you take a typical site like Cirencester and assume mid week discount periods are as this year.(they don't seem to be quoted in price supplement) It falls below your £17 / £18 mid week, for March, second part of April, October (except half term), all November and December (except Christmas and New year.) Even for weekends it is only £19 / £20.60. Which given you have access to a 16 amp supply doesn't seem bad to me.
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our New Year trip to Greenacres CL Bibury (nr Cirencester) is £12 a night incl. HS and EHU....and thats 'peak'.
i decided not to go to Hillhead after all (we went there in the spring for a recce) and that would have been £33 a night....
midweek club sites need to be very close to the £14 mark to make them attractive, but not just in a few places....
weekends out of season should be (say) £17.
the problem is that, with the clubs price bands, there are very few dates that dont have some sort of 'premium' attached....peak, shoulder, BH, school hol, etc, etc...
we never see occupancy figures broken down by date or price band...
yes. when there are folk who have no choice on their dates, they have to pay the going rate, and sites are full, despite the high prices...
but as dates move away from peak into 'the core demographic' periods, i wonder what the true occupancy is....
i agree with Kjell, as long as costs are recovered, with the only real additional cost being the electric used, prices can be set to a more attractive rate.....the staff are working anyway...and the heating/water/lighting duration wont be varied if another five or ten vans arrive.
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If you lower the cost by £4 per night you need around a 34% increase in occupancy just to break even. Perhaps the CAMC don't think that is achievable in the off season. In general there is not much point in lowering weekend costs, because the sites are fairly full and it would not be possible to achieve a 34% increase.
Personally and given the 16amp supply, which many CL's do not have, I would say the CAMC have their cold weather pricing about right. On a cheaper CL, with limited EHU heating may have to be run on gas. If like the bulk of CAMC site users you rely on the orange cable a £12 a night site could work out equally expensive. I note the site you quoted does have 16 amp but that is far from the norm.
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I note there prices have increased by 16% for 2018. Perhaps folk are using more electricity than they estimated.
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Whilst the site you quoted is undoubtedly good value BB. I note they have increased prices by 16% for 2018. Perhaps folk are using more electricity than they estimated. Also with the exception of Christmas they have availability for all dates in the next 3 months.
You want the CC to charge the same £14 for a full facility site midweek, as the CL will be (from Jan) with no facilities.🤔
Sorry for the repeat but that edit above took about 10 mins to appear. Site gremlins again.😱
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depends what you mean by 'full facilities'....i guess you mean just toilets/showers.....not 'full' facilities compared to many sites i use, but, i agree, more than not having them...
for many, not being on a club site is worth a lot more than being on one
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The problem for us is the number of different pricing bands, up to 4 on many sites, meaning there is now no simple high and low seasons to base holidays round, and the mid week discounts only apply in certain "seasons", and only on certain sites. There is no consistency.
We recently had a September/October 5 week trip and only got a MWD on our last site before coming home, yet many of the sites we used in the latter part of September were more than half empty.
One other thing....we do not do short trips, we do like ET and plan a tour, anything from 4-12 weeks, generally with 4 or 5 nights at each stop, so most stops include a weekend. When deciding if we think a site is too expensive, we look at the total cost for the stay. So if a 5 night stay is over say £100 then we would look elsewhere. Ideally we would look for 5 nights to be no more than £90.
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We ran ours last year with snow in the air in Scotland on a site with 10 amp supply. We used 1kw Alde heating and that was fine. I would have no problem keeping warm on 10 amp site. Also used 1kw when I had a problem with antifreeze concentration when way over Christmas 5 years ago.
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By comparison, we are looking, unusually for us, to book some sites for a trip at Easter next year, the CCC site at Moffat, with HS and EHU would be £85.25 for 5 nights, this includes the Easter weekend.
£17.05 per night.
Considerably less expensive than any of the CAMC sites we have just looked at!
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Not really studied many of the CCC sites before, but looks like quite a few up here do not open till Easter, and that they do not consider Easter as peak season in Scotland.
The same 5 nights would be £137 at their Barnard Castle site..£27.40 per night......quite a difference and why we do not normally go away at that time!
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Kj - I was at Cirencester last week for a few days. Just me, 1 of the dogs, porch awning EHU (16A) and shower/toilets - under a tenner a night midweek and £12.30 on Friday & Saturday. As far as I know, it's been that price since the end of October. Not sure many CL/Morris/Haven etc can beat that for value.
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We've booked 5 sites for our X-mas trip and and they are all around the £12-£14 price range, and none of them have increased their prices for the winter. We did look at a couple of others but they had increased their price by nearly 25%, so haven't bothered with them. We can manage with 10amps and no other facilities on site, just as we do for all of the rest of the year.
BTW From experience, Steve, the majority of CLs have 16amp supplies.
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But £15 odds for two, midweek?
We have no dog or awning to worry about.
Not a bad price at all, but we are ideally looking for say £17-18 per night averaged over 5 nights, mid September onwards. No school holidays in September, and many sites were pretty empty mid week this year.
November, and certainly December, is too late in the year for us, and Cirencester is rather far away for a short break! The less expensive Club sites up here all close down early November.
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Out of interest and as a comparison , I just thought I would work out what my next trip across the channel was going to cost me per night including cross channel fares and extra insurance but excluding fuel which I would have to buy whereever the trip to was. The cost, the princely sum of £16.30 p.n. For that I get a 100 metre square fully service pitch in a better climate.
peedee
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So when is this great trip PD middle of summer when all the Europeans are on holiday or way out of season when there is no demand? I think you should be up front when you say these things, I could say it going to cost me zilch if I stayed on free Aires...
And if its now good luck if you like skiing in Spain
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Spain is also a 'winter holiday' country with many ski resorts dotted along the A23 to Zaragosa....i would expect snow there at this time of year.
peedee, i expect you mean '100 square metres' not '100 metres square'
.....still, i know what you mean.purely based on credit card entries, i could make a guess at what my holidays, here and abroad, cost me but i dont note them individually so cant give a per night figure without 'crunching' some numbers...
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