Pitch Prices 2018
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I agree NtH...it is a basic web site and much needs to be done ( mentioned as an alternative/something new on the scene)....and obviously running on a shoe string..so to speak. unlike both major clubs with millions in the coffers....but hey ho, I'm all for supporting the little guys and see where the journey goes...
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Agree there, GTP. I may well try it to see what sort of sites they have.
I've just received the printed supplement for next year's site prices, and going through it there appear to a general rise of about 60-80p per night on the lowest price bracket, however there are some that have gone up a fair amount, the biggest being a 28% rise at The Howard!! I do wonder why, although they indicate which sites have Mid Week Discount there's no list of the dates to which these apply in the sullement. One has to search for these dates on-line in the Special Offers list in the UK Holiday section.
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The web site is not very good but I've not had any problem booking a pitch on a CC site, although I've never tried doing it on Frenzy day.
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Sorry, David.
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is it to pay for the name change. think of all the new signs that are needed.be cheaper to stay in some hotel by the time you add it all together. tow car , caravan, service, insurance, storage , road tax because need a bigger car. I wonder is it worth it ?
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Only you can decide. You can always sell up.
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It is only economic it if usage is enough. But worth and economy are not the same thing
The last time that I estimated my total costs for car/caravan/site fees/extra fuel etc. (including insurances and servicing etc) I reckoned on around £55 a night. We are away for 120 nights. We have some lunches out which I don't include. If we stayed in a hotel I reckon on at least £20 a day for breakfast and evening meal for two.
It is possible that I could match £55 for a double room but would still cost more like £85 for breakfast and evening meals.
120 nights a year in a hotel though? No thanks an apartment perhaps with fridge and rill/hob would be OK. Would not fancy sourcing 20+ of them to suit our travels in the UK though and not for £55 a night including electric and heating as needed.
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Basing costs on the depreciation of our last van and tow car, over 8 and 7 years respectively. Adding on, storage, insurance, servicing, 100 site nights and fuel, the cost comes to about £76 a night. On top of that there would be food.
However, we would have owned a vehicle, even if it wasn't such an expensive 4x4. So some of the vehicle cost needs to come off.
Clearly for those that change new vans / tow cars more frequently the costs could be well into the £100's per night.
We don't really like hotels, so even if it was costing us more we would much rather caravan. However as things stand we would only be financing a very basic hotel at best. To us there is no contest.
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well as I've just seen in my club magazine the membership fee is going up too so I'm bowing out and wont be renewing my membership in March when it runs out ,being on my own I can and have done cheap B&B as they allow dogs only done odd few nights but I'm going to go on new adventures next year go new places and as I have a camper van can park up for free if I so wish
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I'm on min wage so I have to have 3 jobs so the increases are too much for me
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One thing to consider is that as a single person the CAMC pricing structure does work out better than some of the commercials. The majority of sites are available for around £16 per night in June / part of July and most of September, less out of season.
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Correct, and even better on sites with midweek discount. I've just had a few days solo at Cirencester Park - under a tenner a night midweek and only £12.30 at the weekend. If you choose club sites wisely they can work out more economical than most of the alternatives!
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Most replies regarding the increase in cost of both membership and site fee's across various threads suggest that if you don't like the increases you have the option of using the CL network instead! How many of you regularly check the number of CL's closing each month?
It is not uncommon for Ten or more closures let alone club sites like Mildenhall at the start of the year and Breamar Park to end off the year and any in between!
The take up of new CL's and club sites hardly makes up for those who want to caravan at reasonable prices!
The question must therefore be asked ' Are the CMC on a course of self destruction'
With the number of people saying they are not renewing next year we can only look forward to increasing membership fees from an ever declining number of members....... Which might suit a number of the people who have deep pockets and can afford the high prices.
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The question must therefore be asked ' Are the CMC on a course of self destruction'
With the number of people saying they are not renewing next year we can only look forward to increasing membership fees from an ever declining number of members....... Which might suit a number of the people who have deep pockets and can afford the high prices.
The latest figures show an increase in membership and a healthy increase in revenue.
Dont confuse what people say on here with the truth......they are nothing like the same thing......
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TT, for some reason I'm unable to open the link that you have supplied.
Dont confuse what people say on here with the truth......they are nothing like the same thing......wink
The same thing could well be said about the statistics supplied by HO too.
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Nellie,
I will try again.....
Is a companies annual report a legal document ? I would guess anything said was supposed to be true..?
Edit, yes it seems to work now.....
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Thanks TT, It's working now. Three things I noticed was a drop in both the satisfaction with the club, but only very minor I admit, a fall in the number of nights spent on a CC site per family member to below the 2014 level, and although they state an increase in new members they don't give any indication of numbers or % rise. I wonder why.
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I wonder why.
Probably to avoid being taken to task over the re-brand....
However, speed reading the executive summary I saw no evidence the club is struggling to attract or retain members, or fill sites....
Which pretty much matches my experience out in the field.....
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Having worked with 'stats' for many years..I can assure you they can be 'spinned'...... for or against !!
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Is a companies annual report a legal document ? I would guess anything said was supposed to be true..?
The report does have to approved/signed off....
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As stated in the report that there had been an increase in membership of Motorhome owners due to the rebranding of the club in early 2017 ! This being the annual report for 2016 as they can only dream of figures increasing in the year 2017 which has not finished yet.......
How would you boost membership numbers ( and therefore income ) by introducing another category which might have been overlooked - The Caravan and Motorhome Club - instant increase in the field of possible members.
Or perhaps as stated in my previous post , just staving off the number of people leaving due to increased membership charges, increased site fees, loss of sites and dwindling CL available.
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I thought minimum wage was rising faster than inflation to get it up to an acceptable living wage by 2020 or so and was going up 4.4% per the budget. I am guessing the increase in membership fee is less than this and in general the club has to increase it prices to pay for the minimum wage rise of 4.4% as that's what it pays the warders and probably a lot of other staff in HO.....
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Or they could try to increase site occupancy midweek and low season by more creative pricing, thus increasing overall income, rather than hiking membership fees and site fees above inflation.
Minimum wage may well be increasing reasonably, but most wages and pensions otherwise are not.
I would doubt anyway that anyone on only a 40 hour week minimum wage could reasonably afford to use Club sites.
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By more creative I assume you mean cheaper? I know they offer mid week discounts at some sites but they are never going to give the pitches away like say Haven and other commercials as we all know those are subsidised by way higher pricing in school holidays and weekends plus the commercials have other income streams on site that subsidise the lower pitch fees.
As for wages and some pensions I agree they are not going up as much but the club costs are, minimum wage, rates, insurance etc.
No one is forcing anyone to be a member or indeed use club sites but the popularity of most sites to me means they must be doing something right, and the annual report said increased membership.
I would like them to follow the C&CC though and have an online membership and stop sending out the magazine as I can read online now but they seem to be wedded to it at the moment, maybe because of the revenue from advertising?
As for anyone on a 40 hour week minimum wage affording club sites I would go further to say they probably could not afford the lifestyle in general what with the costs of buying, insuring and running either a caravan and decent tow car or a motorhome. You can get good prices on non facility sites and CL's but of course you have to or should be a member to use them!!!
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No,the wheel continues to turn and the club will return to 1907 when only the wealthy went caravaning,not sure about the horses though but could be seen as helping the environment 😎
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In order to reduce prices low season I suspect that would result in increased prices in peak season. Not something that I would vote for. As for reducing prices mid week would that not do the same? I cannot see a great increase in site utilisation by mid week reductions personally.
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ET, I'm sure that there a fair amount of members, like ourselves, who would visit CC sites more frequently in the low season, instead of using CLs, if the mid-week discount reduced the price to be similar to that charged by those CLs.
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