Pitch Prices 2018

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  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited November 2017 #122

    There are a lot of us that are members just for the CL network.

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2017 #123

    great ! if that is what floats your boat, (excuse the pun), personally I prefer some home comforts, although I dont do home entertainment in the form of Tv etc, but have stayed on some wonderful CL's, but in my experience you dont necessarily have to be a member of CAMHC to use a CL, some that i have used have been glad of the business CAMHC member or not, of course if you left CAMHC then you would not get updated info re availability of CL's etc, which could be a bit of a downer

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #124

    A CL owner is in breach of his operating conditions if he allows non-members to use his site and risks losing his exemption rights with the club.

    The club, in turn, risks losing their right to grant exemption if a CL owner breaches the rules. That is why we need to make the club aware of any irregularities. It’s for the greater good.

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2017 #125

    oh please ! I lived and toured in Scotland for 12 years, do you seriously think a CL owner is going to turn away business in late October/November because you are not a member. I also know of at least 2 sites that have 5 pitches that are non CAMHC & 5 that are, do you think that if all the non CAMHC are full and a CAMHC pitch is available and a non member pitches up that they are going to turn them away, it is all about the money. Correct me if I am wrong but are'nt there many club sites that say "non members welcome". Its all about the money.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #126

    What has living and touring in Scotland got to do with anything?

    I stated the case as it is. If you disagree then that's your choice but I don’t need a rant. 

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    edited November 2017 #127
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  • MichaelT
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    edited November 2017 #128

    I think there is a difference in the licence model of a normal C&MC site and a CL from either this or the other club, even the terms of the lease may change the way a normal site operates.

    I agree they may turn a blind eye but as TW says it is against the rules of the exemption rights for a 5 van site so could cause an issue for both owner and club.  There are several sites that seem to flout the 5 van rule also but I guess its like any other rule/law it only matters if you get caught.

    I am sure some sites over there would give the ASCI discount even if you are not a member rather than turn business away in late season.

    I have been on many CL sites and whilst some ask for membership number when booking none have asked to see my card so I guess I could make up a number that looks like a C&MC number and they would be none the wiser however I do not mind paying the membership fee to give me access to the whole 2000 odd sites that accept me not just a few that will if I was a non member.laughing

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2017 #129

    sorry Tinwheeler if it came across as a "rant" my point was that if you tour in Scotland during the winter months as i have done, then  I think you will find that there are lots of vacancies on many sites, and are CL owners given the chance not going to take in business be it member or non member ?.   

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2017 #130

    Michael T

    "but I guess its like any other rule/law it only matters if you get caught"

     

    agree

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #131

    Apology accepted.

    I don’t think you will find circumstances differ greatly between Scotland and this area but you are speculating on what people will do when human nature takes over.

    My previous post stated the case as per the regulations rather than debating an issue based on speculation. 

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2017 #132

    sorry TW, as a long time tourer in Scotland whilst not a member of the CC, my observations are based on fact not speculation, and i must say i have visited your beautiful county and had similar experiences. I am afraid money talks, and £10 per night for providing a pitch and somewhere to ditch you chemical waste is better than zilch.

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2017 #133

    We have only ever stopped on one CL, which happened to be in Scotland, and I don't remember CC membership being a consideration.

    They certainly would not of been able to take more than 5 vans though. If you strayed off the track or rocky hardstandings, you sank.😂

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #134

    It has to be speculative as you cannot possibly know what all CL owners do. You are taking a few experiences and assuming that is the norm when the truth is that neither you nor I know for sure.

     

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2017 #135

    ok TW i butt out of this discussion as i feel our conversations are no longer relevant to the original post re pitch fees, you have your opinion, I have mine, happy camping.

  • David2115
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    edited November 2017 #136

    It’s a forum....for ranting. !!😄

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited November 2017 #137

    This is what I found, you do not need to be a member money talks it is a minority that insist on the card, and the amount that have an excess of vans on site is on the increase,but hey what do we know.

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2017 #138

    Your last coment seems correct

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  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited November 2017 #140

    That is all you can base it on,experience..the last CL I went on last year had 7 units on and card was not asked for the problem is most people book and do not tour about freely finding sites this is where cash talks.

  • tigerfish
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    edited November 2017 #141

    Yes I do think that the Caravan Club, Club Sites, have got too expensive and have been for some time now.

    Last year we spent 42 nights in the caravan, of which 14 were on a lovely commercial site at St Buryan in Cornwall at £17 per night late June & early July.  The remaining 28 nights were all on very good CL's at prices varying from £10 - £14 per night all with EHU.

    I am surprised that so many seem to think that CL's are all very basic, that may have been the case many years ago, but today many of them vie with the Club site for facilities.  On one we were even met with a tray of tea and biscuits on arrival!  Many now provide toilet & showers in the £14 per night, and keep the grass to lawn standard.

    We are now so committed to the network of CL's that we haven't stayed on a club site for 2 full years, and even before that Club site usage was minimal. Why pay £25+ per night when you get very similar facilities for £14 pn maximum.  Over a fortnight that makes a minimum  difference of £154,  to spend on meals out etc!

    TF

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2017 #142

    Only once in the last5 years have we been asked for our card. Also on a number of occasions there have been more than 5 vans. No I have not reported it and have a lot of sympathy for Cl owners. The die hards here don't recognise actuality- Cash talks every time.

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited November 2017 #143

    Well that's at least  two of us and I would never dream of reporting them we need more site's not less and happy to pay the going rate😎

  • Rufs
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    edited November 2017 #144

    Phew !!! thats good to know i thought i was the only person living in the real world.

  • Grant705
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    edited November 2017 #145

    Very true TF

    It is so nice to be on a site without  masses of other caravans, very few cars driving around and  the lack of noise from grass cutting and bin emptying - just peace and quiet.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #146

    Which you remember well from days of yore.laughing

  • Grant705
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    edited November 2017 #147

    I'm sure it hasn't changed from 10 years ago.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited November 2017 #148

    Or from 10 weeks ago. smile

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  • GTP
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    edited November 2017 #150

    It certainly appears to be the case that many CLs don’t ask for proof of membership. Recently we arrived at a CL to find it was no longer part of the CAMC network and had joined the Freedom Camping network. Membership is free and list 9000 sites....google it...

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited November 2017 #151

    GPT, have just looked at the Freedom Camping web site, but find that the search facility is very poor. One has to trawl through each site separately to find out what facilities are on offer. There's no mention of H/S pitches and the "Open All Year" request is very hit/miss.