How much of your area is built on?

DavidKlyne
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edited November 2017 in General Chat #1

I thought some of you might find this BBC story interesting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41901294  It's all to do with how much of the UK is actually built of. I think it quite a comfort to see how little is.

David

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  • ABM
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    edited November 2017 #2

    A  lot  of  the  UK  is  so  rough,  steep,  hilly  or  down  right  mountainous  that  it  cannot  be  built  on.  So  including  this  in  the  way  it  was  in  the  news  item  is,  at  least,  a  little  disingenuous  to  my  way  of  thinking.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited November 2017 #3

    Someone like Corners has been playing with statistics ..... 0.1% they said on the BBC news, I think we all know that's a manipulation of figures.

  • ValDa
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    edited November 2017 #4

    It's quite rural where we are in Harrogate Borough: Built on 3%, Green urban 2%, Farmland 70%, Natural 25%

    In complete contrast my eldest son lives in Hackney which is Built on 71%, Green urban 28%, Farmland 0%, Natural 1%

    No wonder he likes coming back home and likes our house in rural France even more, where I would guess the result is Forest 50%, natural 47%,  Built on 0.5%. Farmland 2.5%.  

  • brue
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    edited November 2017 #5

    It was an interesting little insight but it doesn't seem an exact science. Our area is 90% farmland however that could be an excuse to build, we are seeing rapid expansion around local towns. Where you live David, our family used to farm. Losing farmland is a worry. frown

  • Bakers2
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    edited November 2017 #6

    Surprised by our result too. 

    Built on9%

    Green urban4%

    Farmland82%

    Natural4%

    I wonder if this includes all the proposed and lots approved of new building? 3,000 in just one development. No new roads or hospital infrstructure,  in fact there were going to take away our A&E 😲😲.

    Just goes to prove you can say almost anything with figures.............

  • redface
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    edited November 2017 #7

    Not enough apparently. So should I be selling part of my garden to the builders?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited November 2017 #8

    According to the Office of National Statistics there are 27 million households in the UK so whilst 3000 extra houses might seem a lot to be built locally they are hardly a drop in the ocean in the wider picture. We might have to accept, given the national housing shortage, that will have to build perhaps a million or more extra homes to satisfy the current and future demand?

    David

  • LeTouriste
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    edited November 2017 #9

    And yet, in continental Europe where they have much more space than we, it is common to see buildings on high, rocky promontories.

  • papgeno
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    edited November 2017 #10

    I wouldn't know what percentage is built up round here but I do know they're building on every vacant patch, or that's how it seems.

    When I was younger the population of our township was about 6,000 now it's said to be 9,000 and obviously growing.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited November 2017 #11

    If you go to the link you can put in your postcode which should give you some information.

    David

  • jennyc
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    edited November 2017 #12

    I think that people’s perceptions of the amount of land being built on is due, in many cases, to their vantage point being on a road. I flew aeroplanes for many years, providing a vantage point from which a clearer understanding of building density can be achieved. There really is far more unbuilt land than many believe.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2017 #13

    The statistics are based on local government areas, so slightly flawed in some instances in terms of like for like comparisons. It shows the whole of Cornwall as an area, and City of London as an area. Interesting nevertheless though.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited November 2017 #14

    I would agree with JennyC about perception. Over the past fourteen years of flying in to LGW from our place in Spain it is surprising, even in the South East, how little is actually built upon. Yet on the ground it feels so much more congested.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited November 2017 #15

    Does it make any difference though? You would expect The City of London to be densely built but you would also expect Cornwall to be sparsely built. If you look at the percentages for Milton Keynes it is quite light on density but MK is a Unitary Authority which covers a massive area of sparsely populated North Buckinghamshire. Perhaps statistics are only available by local authority? I hope I have remembered this correctly but in one of his books Bill Bryson mentions that if London was as densely built at Paris it would have a population of 35 million!!!

    David

  • brue
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    edited November 2017 #16

    The actual density of population per sq kilometre and then how much space per person overall in the UK gives an indication of real space available. I think the ONS quotes an average 261 people per sq km in 2011. But somewhere like London has over 4000 people per sq km which leaves a bit more room elsewhere! smile

  • papgeno
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    edited November 2017 #17

    Thanks for that tip. It seems that only 22% is actually built on but given that 51% is classified as farmland I wonder if that colours my perception.

    Given that Kirklees includes the conurbations of Dewsbury and Huddersfield the built up areas are all at one end of the district.

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2017 #18

    We seem to be above average in built on area at 16%, but we are on the outskirts of Glasgow.

    Green urban area is good at 9%, Glasgow is known as the "dear green place".

    Then we are 41% farmland and  34% natural.

    There is a lot of building going on to fill in empty spaces, and a lot of brown field sites being used in the city, but the boundaries of the towns are being kept in  check by the planners.