Damp

Dudley Walker
Dudley Walker Forum Participant Posts: 25

Hi we have a series 5 ranger and during the service this week they found a 50% damp reading in the front top near side corner. They are going to monitor it. There are no visible cracks in the front panel.Would like to know if anybody has any ideas please.

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  • mylo
    mylo Forum Participant Posts: 104
    edited October 2017 #2

    Hi had series 7 pageant had leak top near side was found to be awaning rail not been sealed wear there was a joint front panel to roof panel was told it was a common fault on 2009 models 

  • Tigi
    Tigi Forum Participant Posts: 1,038
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    edited October 2017 #3

    What do they mean "monitor it" usually readings much over that high require investigation, with winter coming take care not to be fobbed off!

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
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    edited October 2017 #4

    At 50% it needs remedial action NOT monitoring.

  • EasyT
    EasyT Forum Participant Posts: 16,194
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    edited October 2017 #5

    Approved Workshop Scheme Guidance Notes

    Readings between 0 - 15% are not a cause for concern.
    GUIDANCE NOTES
    Readings between 15 - 20% may require further
    investigation when compared with the average of all
    readings taken. Consideration should be given to
    re-checking the area in three months.
    Readings greater than 20% will identify areas needing
    remedial work. There may be early signs of water
    ingress or evidence of moisture. Again, consideration
    should be given to re-checking the area in three months.
    When readings go above 30% structural damage may
    be occurring and deterioration is inevitable.

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
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    edited October 2017 #6

    Have you had the c/van for a while?

  • Dudley Walker
    Dudley Walker Forum Participant Posts: 25
    edited October 2017 #7

    Yes we have had it for just over three years. Ther is no other problem with it. The last van we had was a bailey Avalon that  we bought brand new in 1993 and traded it in three years ago. We decided not to buy a new bailey because of all the damp problems  people have had .

  • Aspenshaw
    Aspenshaw Forum Participant Posts: 611
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    edited October 2017 #8

    EasyT is right about the Approved Workshop notes. If your van has not been serviced by an Approved Workshop, maybe its time to change to one.

    Did you get a damp report with the areas of damp marked on?

     

  • Dudley Walker
    Dudley Walker Forum Participant Posts: 25
    edited October 2017 #9

    It has just been serviced by an approved workshop. I do have the full damp report as usual and it shows between 12% and 15% everywhere apart from a area approx 4 square inches directly below the strip that joins the front panel to the roof..You can't see a stain or a damp mark and it does'nt feel damp but is came up with a 50% reading. It goes in in 10 days to have the roof strap removed ,cleaned up all the old silicone removed and then refitted and revealed with new silicone. Hopefully that should be the end of it.

  • Glenn T
    Glenn T Forum Participant Posts: 49
    edited November 2017 #10

    I am thinking of buying my own Damp Meter.

    Can anyone who has one please advise which make they have and 

    are they happy with it.

    There are so many on the market, I would appreciate any

    advise.

     

  • GodivaNige
    GodivaNige Forum Participant Posts: 606
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    edited November 2017 #11

    I have an Extech MO257

    It is a very good non invasive tester and cheaper than the industry standard Protimeter Aquant or Surveymaster which are considered the best on the market.

    You have to know how to use these type of meter though, they give false alarms when picking up strengthening within a sandwich construction, or embedded cables for example. If you didn’t know this you would have a panic every time you used it. They are good for finding suspected areas of damp but should always be followed up with a pin type meter for more accuracy. I have a fairly cheap pin meter bought off eBay for around £20 but it is quite accurate. 

    Approx once every two months, usually when away at a site, I go over the whole van with the Extech, checking all corners, around windows joints, around access hatches etc. All the usual places where moisture is likely to enter. If i’m unsure about a false alarm I may be getting, check with the pin meter but only if very unsure, don’t want holes left all over the van.

    The Extech MO280 is a cheaper alternative non invasive meter at around £100 and receives good reviews, may be worth a punt

  • Glenn T
    Glenn T Forum Participant Posts: 49
    edited November 2017 #12

    Thank You Nigel

    Certainly given me something to think about 

  • GodivaNige
    GodivaNige Forum Participant Posts: 606
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    edited November 2017 #13

    No problem, it seems the inductive pinless technology is drifting down to cheaper price points now. A search on eBay for ‘pinless moisture meter’ is bringing up some products between £20 and £50 which was never the case a few years ago.

    Cant vouch for there ability but at least they are becoming cheaper. Great for regular checking as IMO, an annual damp test is often too late. Best to catch ingress early as possible.

  • b20pjg
    b20pjg Forum Participant Posts: 13
    edited November 2017 #14

    I worked at a caravan dealers for three years after retirement handling part exchanges and the only meter we would use is the Protimeter. The great benefit is that the display is visual. On many occasions I have checked a part exchange which on the face of it is completely dry and found damp in the usual suspect areas, around the toilet, corners of the awning rail and window apertures. What I particularly liked was the colour coding : green for fine, yellow for a little suspect and red for immediate action. However the readings do need interpretation. If when when checking around a front window the whole area is green, except for a small area of yellow, new window rubbers and resealing should sort that out. However if the whole of one side is reading yellow then that requires looking at quickly since in six months time it could be red. I have purchased my own Protimeter for peace of mind and every three months do a quick damp check. If putting a caravan into storage for the Winter I would certainly have it checked and again in the Spring.