Electric/Hybrid Depreciation

Tigi
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edited October 2017 in Towcars & Towing #1

I see in the Daily Mail today they are quoting the depreciation of some of the current electric vehicles Nissan Leaf etc and others, pretty horrendous. Think I`ll be hanging onto the ever faithful diesel for a bit longer than usual.

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  • Fysherman
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    edited October 2017 #2

    The technology is moving on so fast it would be a huge financial gamble to purchase a pure electric car.

    Bet not many buy one a second time

  • brue
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    edited October 2017 #3

    The older hybrid leaf didn't have the range extenders now added to various makes of car. However they are still fuel efficient on short journeys. 

  • DS3
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    edited October 2017 #4

    Electric cars are hugely expensive and for the most part useless to us rural folk, and by the time you payout nearly £100 a month to hire the batteries on top of the £33,000 to buy the car in the first place, that is one expensive Nissan leaf.

  • Heethers
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    edited October 2017 #5

    They need power plants to produce the supply, until they come up with the strategy for new power stations l am leaving well alone. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if a change of government took a different tack, leaving the consumer holding the baby as per usual

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  • brue
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    edited October 2017 #7

    As I said before to the OP,  ignore the DM. Our electric car is costing us pence to run. The battery has an 8 yr guarantee, we can go any distance using the range extender. The UK is running out of its own fossil fuels and we need to cover ourselves from being dependent on overseas suppliers. It's not us, it's future generations who need the new technologies.We also need to cut pollution for the future too.

    There are further developments in  progress.

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  • Milothedog
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    edited October 2017 #9

    A little off topic but I thought some of you may  be interested to see these pictures as there is a lot of interest in  electric/hybrid vehicles.

    As I have said in the past I was quite involved in the introduction of hybrid buses in London, my company was the first to start using them.

    The big square one on the pallet is from a Volvo chassis and was located just behind the N/S/F wheel. The other pictures are what Alexander -Dennis used and was located between the upper and lower decks at the rear.  Both were over 600  volts  and weighed just over a ton but I cant remember the AH ( it was quite high). as you can see they are basically made up from linking 1.5v cells ( think torch batteries smile) in combinations of series & parallel. IIRC there are 1250 cells in a whole battery pack, a battery being made of what were called "blades" and housed in a large flat metal casing.  As well as having to be qualified as Technicians/Mechanics we also all had to do a B-Tec qualification to certify us to work on systems up to a 1000 volts DC

    Hope you find it interesting.

  • Milothedog
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    edited October 2017 #10
  • JVB66
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    edited October 2017 #11

    If batts are that heavy,if in the future there is an all electric tow car there should not be a problem with kerb weight wink

  • brue
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    edited October 2017 #12

    They are indeed heavy, similar to a car engine and they will probably tow well when approved. I seem to be the only electric car owner posting on CT. I don't have any "noble" sentiments, it's progress and the biggest change since the internal combustion engine came along although electric cars came first even then.smile

  • Milothedog
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    edited October 2017 #13

    From what I have read on "tinternet" the BMW range extender is a 600cc 2 cyl, 2 stoke engine, is this the case?

    2 strokes were very bad polluters hence you don't see large 2 stroke M/C's anymore. 

    A 2 stroke does seem to be a backwards step if it is the case....  

  • mickysf
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    edited October 2017 #14

    Oh dear, we're all doomed! Some say it appears, ' can't stop it so bring it on, the sooner the better'!

    Others contemplate/research possible alternatives which will at best delay the seemingly inevitable for several generations if not many millennia.

    I know which group I firmly agree with and want to support!

  • brue
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    edited October 2017 #15

    I suppose you could sign up for the "flat earth society" but there you go. wink

    Here's a pic of the dash board, all driven on screen, eco pro and eco pro plus for town driving etc range extender tends to come in on longer faster driving. The particulates are minimal. 

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  • brue
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    edited October 2017 #17

    This conversation could be interesting if those taking part read up about electric cars and how they function.

    Who says particulates are minimal?

    I do, as I own an electric car and have all the emissions and running details to hand. However as I have said before I'm not the techie one in the family and I have had a lot of learning to do to get to grips with new technology. Not a bad thing to learn and read up about. I've been happy to chat with folks on here about the developments now happening. Hope some of my comments have been helpful. Happy motoring. smile

  • Tigi
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    edited October 2017 #18

    Shell is starting to equip ten filling stations in the UK with charging points - cost 49p per KW. It won`t be long before the politicians move in for the kill and come up with a tax, just imagine the loss of revenue from fossil fuel.

  • tigerfish
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    edited October 2017 #19

    My big Diesel runs on AdBlu.  That must be OK because our oh so reliable Govt has just fitted 3 x21 Litre Maybach diesels to each 5 car set of the New Hitachi Electric trains!

    Thats an interesting question! - When the Mayor of London bans all Diesels from entering the City in a couple of years time, will all the Diesel driven trains have to stop at Reading?  And will All the HGV's and delivery vans have to off load onto horses and carts at the city limits?  After all whats sauce for the gander etc etc

    TF