AGM, 28th October, who's going?
So, this is your opportunity folks, to raise points direct to the board.
There's plenty (in fact there's BUCKET LOADS) of folk, never more willing to complain behind the safety of their keyboard and internet connection, but who's got the guts to stick it to the floor for open debate?
***when the time comes, the room will fall eerily silent and the power people will assume everything is honky doory***
Betcha 
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I make you right
Good opportunity for the anti dog brigade to action something. Oh but I forgot, It's not them that should have to do anything is it.
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Not a chance, but congratulations on being the first to reply with an excuse
Just been reading the report ahead of the meeting which briefly mentions some of the issues that have been raised in the last year, one in particular (guess)
What is interesting is the comment about membership, new members and those renewing. Its very vague. The C&CC have declared in their last magazine (which is very good BTW, lots of appealing articles) that they have had over 53,000 new members join in the last 12 months, they give a more exact figure but I've not got the mag to hand.
I'd really like to know how many *new* members the club has attracted, especially recently, since the rebrand. That would be fascinating. But not interesting enough to note a figure in the pre AGM report? Wonder why?
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You could be right, however on the sites I've stayed on this year (one in particular which fell during May half term), the number of caravans/motorhomes far outweighed the numbers of tents during that week.
Without specific statistics as to what new members joining the C&CC are using... tent, caravan, motorhome, camper van etc... you and I are only guessing, making assumptions. Do you know for a fact the new recruits are mainly campers?
One thing I do know, having read the latest C&CC magazine, the direction they are taking with the emphasis on adventure and activities, is very evident. Articles on taking up mountain biking and kayaking being a couple of the lead titles. (not a single macro image of a bird, insect or flower to be found)
Considering this club were striking the same approach following the rebrand, it'll be interesting to see how the next magazine (when it lands) compares.
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Correction... magazine rescued from the rack - 58,659 new members recruited to the C&CC in the last year.
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Nigel, you also need to look at the oppositions mag again, there is a big fat hairy spider on page 25....
Thanks for bringing the AGM up as a topic though, I see the club are hoping members will fill in the surveys about sites, but the take up looks quite low at 30%. Maybe they need to up the rewards a little, has anyone ever received anything from the prize draw for filling in the 73,000 surveys? That's a lot of form filling by the 30%!
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Indeed there is, but in my defence, it doesn't accompany some fluffy wildlife article. The Creepy Crawley Show, who'd have thought such a thing exists.
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I like wildlife too, but this club do feature an awful lot of it in the monthly rag.
I'll be at the AGM, you know what killed the cat as someone once wrote.
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I tend to agree with Nigel, the AGM is an opportunity which is underused as a means to get members views across. At least its now held in the Midlands which is a bit more central. I think that if a lot more members attended and asked reasonable questions things could start to change in the way the Club conducted itself. I have often thought about going but have never quite got round to it. It would be good to get an answer on why the Club find the current situation with Club Together acceptable?
David
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I seem to recall that any points of business have to be submitted by a certain date, which I've not done. But i'm still going along because I want to gauge if the Club and its Board are in sync with its Membership, or, as I suspect, are not on the same page.
I have a plan to try and get a few words with a couple of people, let them know my thoughts if the opportunity arises, but not going to divulge any more than this prior to the 28th.
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or, as I suspect, are not on the same page.
If it's anything like my classic car club then your suspicions will be proven correct.
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“You said, we did”
We’ll see
A couple of things that do need bringing up and if anyone has their own thoughts on how, if anything, could improve the image of the Club going forward are..
The average age of the Board members.
The lack of women on the Board.
Until these small points are corrected and brought into THIS century, then I’m afraid this Club will never shake off the image it portrays to the public. Golf Club mentality, so outdated.
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Read the report.
2017 accounts, so if it is going to be reported, it’ll be in the 2017 report which will be presented prior to the 2018 AGM
Of course, it’ll be a distant memory come the time
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I'm not able to go but if I'm remembering correctly from last time the club and I fell out, it is possible to appoint the chairman to vote on your behalf but not possible to tell him how you would like him to vote.
I note that there is no choice of candidates for chairman. I don't recall seeing a call go out or is this at a centre level?
So I guess there won't be much change in the way things work.
I'm only a member for insurance and Mayday. I can't get excited about the club side of things. I still haven't forgiven them for promoting 3 popular sites as potential residential development sites. It's probably better that I don't go
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Why bother to make comment about the Club within an online forum such as this, often complaining about its procedures, rules and governing, if you’re not prepared to understand how and why it performs and operates like it does, starting from the top?
Since this forum has been operating, there has been much said and complained about the Club yet, as in my opening post, contributors are not prepared it seems, to raise their heads above the cover afforded by their keyboards and try to actually make a difference.
People spout about how this is ‘their Club’ and how they are not ‘customers’ but are instead, *members* YET, they behave more like a customer and less like a member and then query why something is not to their liking
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This is an open forum and we have a right to comment on any subject on here. You may not like those comments /views but they are mine and as valid as any you may have.
I pay for the privilege of using the CL stock, I don't feel like a member of a club instead I feel like a means to an end i.e. a paying customer to a commercial organisation.
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If you feel as though you are a customer of a commercial organisation and you have a grievance, you are perfectly entitled to make a complaint should the need arise, be this in an open forum or in a letter to the ‘management’
To then go ahead and express how this ‘commercial organisation’ could change to do things better, makes you more of a member than a customer.
In the past I have complained about the service I have received from Amazon, but wouldn’t even start to try and advise them how they can improve their internal operations to serve me better.
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add 1 for me too.
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And me and congratulate the CMC on increasing the membership!
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