Knaresborough - observations

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  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #62

    all good stuff, Husky, and the response any good dog owner would give...

    however, the issue is whether any customers have been 'affected' by the clubs decision to 'welcome' dogs in eating places, in that they themselves dont feel 'welcome'?

    this is something that we (nor the club) will ever know, unless the club asks members, owners and non owners.

    if there were two identical pubs and one allowed dogs and one didnt, id go in the non dog pub.

    if there were two identical puns and one allowed children and the other didnt, id go in the non child pub.

    its no different to all those members who 'love children' but visit AO sites or only use club sites out of season...

    these folk vote with their wheels....to a degree, some vanners will boycott dog friendly sites (and eating places) for the same reason.

    its the 'degree' of impact that we cant quantify....

     

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #63

    Until the club starts taking the numbers of dogs at each site then all these dog numbers are just speculation 

  • young thomas
    young thomas Club Member Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #64

    yes, thats true, but for someone visiting a 'doggy' restaurant, these will be fairly obvious....as will the smellwink

    dogs (especially wet ones) make houses, caravans and restaurants particularly 'recognisable'....

    this alone will put off some members, irrespective of the club taking note of numbers.

    only the club can evaluate if this is having any effect.

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #65

    Before the on line booking system, it was normally part of the booking to be asked if and how many dogs were going to be with you

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #66

    I would rether be near a wet dog"smell" than the personal hygene of some humans that frequent food outletssurprised

  • Milothedog
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    edited September 2017 #67

    What a silly statement ? 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2017 #68

    Good post BB, except for the last bit. I am sure a fair percentage of establishments that allow dogs or children will have done their own research, and made their own mind up as to which way they want to operate. It may not be clearly broadcast to visitors, but whatever policy is chosen will be for reasons important to the owners/ management. 

    Either way, if visitors using an outlet are causing unacceptable disturbance to other visitors, then quite correct to deal with the offenders. Some places deal with it by having dog free/child free areas as part of the establishment, others prefer to be more selective and operate exclusion policies. There are enough choices out there to satisfy the majority. 

     

  • huskydog
    huskydog Club Member Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    edited September 2017 #69

    With my shop I allow dogs in ,but I have only once had to ask a dog owner to take their dog outside as a non dog owner that cam in felt uncomfortable 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2017 #70

    I used to take my Rottweiler to work, she had a basket under my desk. (In my own office I hasten to add). Best thing I ever did for a while........stopped the threatening behaviour from some undesirable customers. Staff would occasionally borrow her to do a walk round. And she was always first in if I got called out to a break in, even police used to wait for "the dog". 

    Makes her sound like a Dire Wolf from GoT. Not really, soft as a brush! 

  • brue
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    edited September 2017 #71

    Our Labrador used to go into work, we used to watch how some of the reps reacted with a Labrador listening to them, she was very tolerant of overpowering aftershave, perfume and persuasive talks....and she sussed out the ones who liked her. wink (If anyone did show signs of discomfort she would be removed for a walk, same as you would do anywhere within reason.) It all comes down to judgement of a situation. I really have never seen anything other than the odd woof at another dog in a site restaurant, all the owners had got them under control. The OP was making general observations about humans I think?! smile

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2017 #72

    Dogs are very perceptive, more so than humans in some instances! laughing

  • EmilysDad
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    edited September 2017 #73

    We once had someone moan about Molly being with us, on a lead, outside in the covered seating area of a pub/restaurant sealed dogs weren't allowed inside. She apparently didn't like dogs .... 

  • Milothedog
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    edited September 2017 #74

    When my Wife was still working  (A Bank Manager for HSBC) she was on a rota as a key holder for any alarm trips in her branch. The drill was, I would take her and our Collie Cross Milo to the bank and she would send Milo in first. You only had to un-clip his lead and say "go find them" and off he would charge barking.  In all the years, all the alarm trips were false alarms, mainly set of by the odd mouse or late night revelers banging the windows or doors or people using the fire exit as a urinal or somewhere to get naughty, if you know what i meansurprised

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited September 2017 #75

    laughing My OH always accompanied me with the dog, the police wouldn't go in until I had sent the dog in first. Big Leisure Centre, all she did was search for biscuits! All false alarms luckily. After she died, we had Airedales, they just wanted to cuddle everyone, too much tail wagging to be considered a deterrent!

    I just got fed up of the daily verbal abuse and intimidation of staff, and one or two of us took our pooches into work. It worked because we had our own offices, and staff were up for it. All the Rottie did was just sit and occasionally yawn, but I could give her a subtle signal to stand up if anyone got really aggressive. 

    I had a far more dangerous beastie in another building I managed! A rescued Hamster (Basil, you just have to don't you!wink) He lived in a huge fish tank, had his own risk assessment file, lots of signs saying do not touch. Work Experience lad decided he was "hard", Basil,of course was asleep at the time, didn't mean to bite!

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #76

    What a way to treat your OHsurprisedcool

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2017 #77

    He should know as Weatherspoons are not normally dog friendly so if his branch has had a 25% increase since accepting dogs it does seem to prove a pointundecided

  • statusMoty1
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    edited September 2017 #78

    Haha of course not....only at home wink