Floor Delamination

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edited September 2017 in Caravans #1

Can anyone advice me what might have caused the floor on my 2 year old Elddis to go spongy in the kitchen area. Although it is being repaired under warranty, unfortunately I have lost my confidence a little in the Elddis dealer due their attitude over this mater and I have the concerns on how good these repair are and if this will occur in other areas of the caravan floor at a later date and the warranty has expired.  Has any other member experienced this problem particularly on a relatively new caravan.

Thank you 

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  • Oneputt
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    edited September 2017 #2

    Had new floor in my Lunar it was just over year old.  Our delamination wasn't caused by water ingress and didn't go spongy.  The lamination just parted which I believe was a quality issue with the manufacturer. The new panels do squeak a bit and we will keep any eye on them.

    One of the big issues for the dealers is the lack of response and delivery from the factory.  We didn't get our van back for nearly 2 months.  Ask your dealer if the floor will be guaranteed for a period after the work is completed, it should be for at least a year.

    Hope this helps

  • ATB
    ATB Forum Participant Posts: 5
    edited September 2017 #3

    Hi

    I had damp in the floor around the wash room area of my 2011 Swift Challenger when it was just over 12 months old due to a design fault around the “skirt”. Swift offered to dry the floor out and replace the skirt with a modified unit. However I insisted they replace the complete floor, which they did without any augment. And, up to now, there hasn’t been any re occurrence of the damp; I would suggest you do the same with Elldis.

  • DSB
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    edited September 2017 #4

    We've had delamination in a couple of our vans in the past (I put it down to the fact that I am a fairly large person smile).  In each case it has been after the warranty has expired.  It has occurred near the central kitchen unit - guess where the van gets most 'traffic.  It has always been dealt with well be the caravan repairers, and in each case we have had no further problems.

    David

     

  • dmiller555
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    edited September 2017 #5

    I had spongy floor problem with our five year old Lunar Clubman in the area immediately in front of the sink unit. It turned out to be a problem with the ends of adjacent flooring sheets overhanging the internal wood bearers by some 300mm.

    Having researched the problem I decided to undertake the repair work myself, which was successful and took about three hours spread over two visits and that including rewelding the vinyl floor covering where I had to cut it to access the floor. Total was less than £50. 

  • DSB
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    edited September 2017 #6

    Well done for doing this yourself.  I wouldn't have trusted myself with drilling holes for delamination.  The caravan repaired generally do it from underneath the van, but it can be done the opposite way.

    David 

  • dmiller555
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    edited September 2017 #7

    I did consider doing it from below but the material is more expensive and I would have had the problem of jacking the van up to a working height. 

  • tigerman
    tigerman Forum Participant Posts: 39
    edited September 2017 #8

    I had an old caravan done from underneath by the dealership out of warranty many years ago kept the van for years never had a problem again...in the same area around the sink...I'm not clever enough to do it myself.......David

  • ScreenNameC6C05AABD6
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    edited September 2017 #9

    Thank you for the replies. After doing a little more research It looks as if it is a common problem but on older vans, at least it can be resolved by some DIY, Luckily on this occasion it is covered under the warranty. At this point of time I have no idea what has caused it and can only assume it is down to poor manufactures design or workmanship!! I have to say that this has left us a bit uneasy as we have lost that confidence in the caravan.

  • EasyT
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    edited September 2017 #10

    Could have been a run of sub standard flooring board.

  • tigerfish
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    edited September 2017 #11

    I had a similar problem in my 2007 Coachman 520/4 VIP when it was about 2 years old.  By that time my supplier had gone bust, so I contacted Coachman expecting them to be a bit reluctant to help.  The opposite was the case!  They immediately took charge of the problem saying that they would have it back to the factory for inspection & repair. But then said that as it was more than half way through the season and they would need it for a couple of months,  why didn't I hang onto the van until I had finished using it in about October and then they would collect it from a suitable location. This they did!

    The Van was returned to me in March having been totally rebuilt!  I never had anything go wrong with that van ever again.  Coachman also gave me a voucher for two years free servicing from my new dealer.

    The fault had been traced to a new flooring system that they had introduced whereby the last floor in each 5 floor set was susceptible  to delimitation. They reverted to 4 floor batches!

    TF

  • jennyc
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    edited September 2017 #12

    We had this problem, in front of the kitchen sink, in the 90s. My husband drilled holes, maybe 3/8" from below, through the plywood then foam, stopping just short of the plywood floor. Then he inserted the tube from a can of builders polyurethane foam into the holes which were about 6" apart and squirted a LITTLE into the void, because it expands a lot. The repair took well under an hour and was still working perfectly five years later when we sold the van. As I remember it, the repair was easy to implement.

  • Bluemalaga
    Bluemalaga Forum Participant Posts: 936
    edited September 2017 #13

    After pitching up at the last site we visited, we went for a walk and on returning to the van found a damp patch on the ground uner the wheel arch on the offside. On investigation, I found that the waste pipe connected to the sink had separated from the plug hole during 4 seasons of travelling.

    My thoughts are that the items were designed to be glued together as there was no seal as you would expect on a push together system.

    Remedy has been to push fit the joint and secure with gorilla tape. so far so good.

  • Bagsharo
    Bagsharo Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited November 2017 #14

    I have a Coachman Jan 2009 registered , I have the delamination the same symptoms you describe Tigerfish. I have a dealer repairing the floor right now but I am concerned the problem will return after reading about your experience. do you know the period this build problem took place or can you suggest someone to contact to find out.

    regards Bagsharo

  • nigbing
    nigbing Forum Participant Posts: 1
    edited April 2023 #15

    Hi, I have the same problem in my Lunar. Presumably, you cut through the brown, floorboard patterned lino? Can I ask how you approached this and, importantly, how you re-welded the lino? 

  • jennyc
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    edited April 2023 #16

    If you drill your holes from below, taking care to just pass through the foam but not the plywood skin, then you won’t have to cut your vinyl floor. Don’t put much foam in because it expands a lot.