Walking between pitches
Reckon I'm a fairly tolerant sort of guy but if one thing ticks me off it's fellow campers walking or riding bikes between other people's pitches.
Sometimes feet from your windows
Was speaking to a warden at one site and their own experiences were the same to a point where they put up windbreaks to stop it happening
What's wrong with sticking to the paths??
Comments
-
The cause of this phenomena is a lack of paths to the facilities, often resulting in a long walk round the road. Personally if it is only a narrow token green strip between hardstandings I wouldn't. Although it is not part of your pitch, so it is difficult to object. There is also the fact they would probably be crossing cables, over which they might trip in the dark. Cutting across your pitch itself is clearly out of order.
If it is a wide grass divide with no cables, I don't really see a problem, and it is in these areas I would like to see more hard surfaced paths.
9 -
I am in agreement with you especially when it comes to walking across someones pitch.
I was on a CL recently on a grass pitch and had positioned my caravan facing the low boundary fence so that I could take advantage of the lovely views. A motorhome arrived and parked on the next pitch to my left, not a problem, until the owner decided to walk between my caravan and the fence to get to the toilet block.
How lazy and ill mannered.
4 -
I would like to see more hard surfaced paths.
Please, not more concrete and hardcore.
3 -
As Steve points out it is often the ergonomics of the design of some of the Club sites that is the main problem. Now many people are basically lazy and will take the line of least resistance rather than thinking about how their behavior impacts on other people. Anyone familiar with Poolsbrook will know some effort has been made direct people through designated walkways to get to various parts of the site so perhaps that is the way to go?
David
2 -
I don't agree with walking through pitches but I think the club have designed sites without direct walks to the facilities, be they hard standing on grass. Is it once again lack or experience of our hobby or greed to maximise pitch numbers? But making walkways would ease this issue but may have an impact on the overall number of pitches. I'm a walker and quite happy to take a slightly longer route, but I see no reason to double or treble the distance of my walk each way to the facilities because of lack of planning foresight. Especially if it is pouring with rain or the roads are icy. We do use our own facilities but if we're paying for site facilities we are entitled to find easy decent access.
It would be nice if the club could read this thread and comment upon lack of direct walking access.
1 -
There is a Youtube clip on this very subject at Southport. Check out - The Happy Travellers Caravan and Motorhome Club Site Southport- Fulltime Motorhome Vlog #218. Sorry, can't do links. Stick it out till the end and watch what happens while the guy is filming.
0 -
After watching that video I think they should bring the stocks and hanging back.
It's the only thing that will satisfy CC members
I thought the one with the camera was really obstructive standing in the middle of his pitch and blocking the other members.
0 -
There will be times when somone needs to get to the toilet block - and needs to get there NOW ! ! Walking across a pitch or two won't bother them - well, they would walk across hot coals just to get there in time.
1 -
Probably a combination of lack of paths to facilities (Looe,Moreton,Ferry Meadows,Bunree and Cirencester - to name but a few ) and people being lazy is the cause.
If it the grass section between HS pitches then that is an "open area" IMO but actually walking through the pitch is a different matter.
0 -
We stayed at Southport earlier this year as this path was being constructed.
Reason for the path is the original EXTREMELY BAD DESIGN of entry to the facility block. One entry to the block ( there is another almost adjacent but entry from the front road) from the far end road as shown on this video and then a walk all the way back as a lady or for the laundry areas. This path went ahead with clubs blessing as the warden said, cheapest place to break the fencing and warden did the job rather than contractors. Warden said there'd be issues as it was through the service, most expensive pitches 😂.
In my mind it proves appalling thinking through of design, I did measure the distance of the walk from the edge of the original site area can't remember now. But it was wet the whole time we were there so additional unnecessary walk in the wet. Was it designed by a man? You choose but first entrance is to male facilities 😉. Not only poor design but real penny pinching solution. Another entrance could be made from the road but probably very costly, as no excuse not to use ramps to change level. The one put in allows speedier entry less walking only to the able bodied and those able to use uneven surfaces. Not to mention the nuisance to pitches involved.
I wrote about the bad design in the review I left hoping notice would be taken. After all we are told that our comments are noted 😉
0 -
No not in this case. See my post above. Designed as a closed fenced facility but only entry's at the opposite end to the pitch being used. Very bad design and approval by the club, who specialise in hiring out sites for caravanning 😤
Edit regardless of the rights or wrongs on walking on the grass finger. This didn't happen whilst we were there as the entry was blocked. But fence already cut to allow access and a path was being laid. It hadn't been finished because they were awaiting more material, hard-core, delivery. So this is deliberately club induced.
0 -
No really relevant to the discussion really.
1 -
I am not sure walking between pitches is a problem. The issue is people cutting across a pitch, often very close to your unit. If I have walk between pitches I make sure keep as far away from a caravan/motorhome as I can.
David
0 -
Beggars belief anyone puts up with being on those two pitches. Chap,in video is perfectly correct, a shambolic design flaw.
1 -
Agree EasyT. All about site fees I suspect. Not a restful holiday for anyone on those pitches.
0 -
Interesting view as on site I'm in just now many of the fingers of grass have hedges planted. Anything my side of hedge I consider on my pitch i.e. Grass where we would sit
Also a warden suggested to me that there is no reason to walk between pitches and that they had been erecting fences to stop some of the shortcuts people were creating
1 -
Quote: Also a warden suggested to me that there is no reason to walk between pitches and that they had been erecting fences to stop some of the shortcuts people were creating
This despite that wardens reasoning only endorses the view many hold that the infrastructure of access paths to the facilities is way off ideal.
IMO if the attrition to the site is such that it needs fences to stop it then it is not the single rouge user but a more general use issue, reflecting a "need".
Also IMO adding a few paths could increase the separation of units, one of the failings we personally have with CC sites in general.
0 -
S, low hedges are a great way to give you your own space, reduce the feel of crowding and regimentation and, for the most part, eliminate the 'rogue walkers' by helping to define preferred routes....even if they are a little longer..
personally, i like the lowish hedge approach.
however, CC doesnt like them as they (apparently) reduce overall number of pitches and require maintenance that cant be carried out whilst riding on a tractor or mower.
CC sites arent 'staffed up' to allow for hedge, bush and tree trimming in the way some others are....so im afraid this is why most cc sites have a more open design with minimal obstructions to ride on mowing...
IMHO, of course....
1 -
On sites that have this problem I apply one simple rule, that is, would I like it if I was pitched there ? If it would bother me I don't do it and walk the long way round to the facilities, waste point etc........
0 -
We got the last available pitch one evening at Barnard Castle, rolling in at 7.55pm. Warden was most apologetic, said it was by entrance to BC's (very good) dog walk. It was very quiet actually. But a proper path, not a cut through. It was only for one night as well. We were using up a Site Night voucher, so picked dearest Site in area, as you do!
0 -
How is it that people can walk along the roadways, within a metre of a caravan front window, and no one complains about that ? But if they walk down the side of a caravan within a metre of the side wall then Caravan Club members get agitated. But that's the nature of Caravan Club members I suppose - easily agitated, and defensive of their territory - "my pitch".
3
